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As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Post by interfixus »

pjc50 wrote: post #390
interfixus wrote: post #377

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Sounds to me like you're saying the UK could end up being held hostage against its scheduled, voluntary, legal exit from a cooperation it joined in 1973 with full assurances that it would always have the option of leaving.

"hostage" is a ridiculous way of putting it. Both the things I mentioned are purely self-inflicted: the UK government doesn't have to contemplate deporting EU nationals, and does not have to mouth off over Gibraltar. Leaving the EU means leaving the benefits of the EU, and Brexiters have generally refused to acknowledge what those benefits were while simultanously complaining when they might be withdrawn.

I'm sure som brexiters have. Those I know, and pro exit folks in various other EU countries, my humble self not excluded, are very well aware of potential costs and downsides. We are not idiots and escatologists, however much remainers may wish to paint us that way.

Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Post by sjg007 »

lacampbell wrote: post #289
marssaxman wrote: post #243

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Looks like the Auckland median price is NZ$890K, which is roughly US$623K. Here in Seattle, the median price just hit US$700K... Auckland doesn't sound so bad!

What's the salary of a senior dev in seattle? How much do electronics, appliances, cars and food cost? Will that 700k USD house have wall insulation and double glazed windows and central heating? I think there's a reason a huge chunk of skilled New Zealanders end up leaving.

Someone in NZ should start a spray foam insulating business. It's not insanely expensive and you can finance people.

Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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lacampbell wrote: post #289
marssaxman wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looks like the Auckland median price is NZ$890K, which is roughly US$623K. Here in Seattle, the median price just hit US$700K... Auckland doesn't sound so bad!

What's the salary of a senior dev in seattle? How much do electronics, appliances, cars and food cost? Will that 700k USD house have wall insulation and double glazed windows and central heating? I think there's a reason a huge chunk of skilled New Zealanders end up leaving.

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Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Post by isostatic »

incompatible wrote: post #328
EdwardDiego wrote: post #218

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There's plenty in Auckland, Wellington, a lesser amount but still a healthy amount in Christchurch, and a few in Dunedin. http://seek.co.nz to get an idea. The developer of DayZ has set up a gaming studio in Dunedin, but it's still pretty sparse down there.

I'd be wary of Wellington just because of the terrible climate and the earthquake risk. That place will likely become a complete disaster area some day.

Yeah, but Sam Francisco will always be immune from earthquakes

Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Post by kasey_junk »

jimmywanger wrote: post #340
kasey_junk wrote: post #267

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"Good schools" has been code for non-integrated schools for a very long time in this country. It might be true it doesn't mean that in the Bay Area, it doesn't mean that in my specific neighborhood either, but pretending like the comment is "injecting" race into the discussion ignores American history.

> "Good schools" has been code for non-integrated schools for a very long time in this country. Citation needed. I have lived in this country for a long time, and have never hear it used in this manner, and Google searches turn up nothing. > pretending like the comment is "injecting" race into the discussion ignores American history "Pretending". Way to jump to conclusions. If you're proposing that an innocuous phras…

https://fairhousing.com/news-archive/press-releases/national...

Here for instance was a fair housing organization filing a lawsuit suggesting that real estate agents used "good schools" as a proxy for race in attempts to racially steer buyers.

Its in the normal lexicon enough for Urban Dictionary to consider that the top definition: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=good%20school...

I'm not suggesting saying "hey they are doing a great job over there, my kid goes to a good school" is enough to assume that the person is saying their kid goes to a white school, but in the context of a discussion about real estate pricing, distance to city centers, etc, the term "good schools" has connotations.

That you are unaware of them is fine, but it wasn't the original commenter that injected those connotations, they've been around for a long time.

Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Post by wbl »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #238
vacri wrote: post #194

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The US has an incredibly wealthy continent at its disposal, full of mineral wealth and fertile farmland, with centuries of infrastructure, close to global trading hubs. New Zealand has a couple of mid-sized islands, neither of which are particularly good for agriculture or mineral wealth, are a very long way from trading hubs, and has the shortest history of built infrastructure of all western democracies. But if you…

> New Zealand has a couple of mid-sized islands, neither of which are particularly good for agriculture That sure hasn't stopped us. We're responsible for 30% of the world's dairy exports.

Dairy is what you farm instead of rocks.

Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Post by wbl »

Lazare wrote: post #105
agentile wrote: post #67

A while back I was going through the immigration process for NZ with an immigration lawyer and had all the points necessary and was moving on to the interview phase. My wife and I ultimately decided to stop as she became pregnant and didn't want to be as far away from family. That and the flight/quarantine times that would be imposed for our dogs. Another big issue was taxes. To my knowledge NZ and USA are two countr…

> To my knowledge NZ and USA are two countries that will try to tax you wherever you live until you die unless you renounce citizenship. US yes, NZ no. The US is practically the only country in the world to do that actually. And they WILL hit you with an extra "exit" tax if you try and renounce your citizenship too.

Only if the reason for dropping is tax avoidance.

Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Post by driverdan »

lacampbell wrote: post #375
40_pending wrote: post #367

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My last salary was about 70,000 NZD, which is less than $49,000 USD. I now make $87,000 USD (about 124,000 NZD), and I've got a written agreement for a raise to $95,000 in about another six months (135,000 NZD). The most I ever made in NZ was one year where I worked two different contractor jobs at about 60 hours per week and I brought in maybe 80k NZD ($56,000 USD). I now make $31,000 USD more than that at just 40 h…

Are you a junior dev? Those contracting rates are awful . I'd class 70k as great for a junior, mediocre for intermediate and a joke for a senior. Wonder if they low-balled you for being a foreigner. FWIW as a NZer you hit the nail on the head about the anti-americanism, and simultaneous obsession with american politics.

It depends on where you live in the US. That salary would be low in the Bay but high in other places.

Re: As New Zealand Courts Tech Talent, Isolation Becomes a Draw

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Post by jessaustin »

lacampbell wrote: post #303
boznz wrote: post #252

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If you end up in Auckland, Wellington or Christchurch you could be just in another big city anywhere in the world, you may be within an hour or twos drive of some of the above descriptors but you wont be looking out of your home or office window at them unless you can drop a million dollars on a house. Get real guys.

If you end up in Auckland, Wellington or Christchurch you could be just in another big city anywhere in the world, Calling Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch "big cities" - I could tell you were a kiwi before I even read the name!

Haha I worked in Wellington for a few months... I'd consider it a large town. Part of that is the geography, which conspires against the sprawl I'd expect from a "big city", and which is certainly a point in Wellington's favor. I haven't been there in about a decade... do grocers stay open after 5 PM yet?
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