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Re: A profound apology

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Post by ifwewereallTK »

sjg007 wrote: post #388
arprocter wrote: post #349

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Clickable - https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/5wrdk2/car_that_uber_... Full text of /u/clonetent's comment: "It's their xchangleasing leasing program. It's basically a sub prime car loan like from the housing bubble days. You use Uber as your income verification and they'll let anyone lease a car provided they do X amount rides each week regardless of credit. They require a three year lease, you a have month to…

The lease program seems predatory....

Welcome to the modern economy.

Re: A profound apology

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Post by rajacombinator »

I ride with Uber drivers who complain to me about their earnings all the time and I just nod graciously and agree with them. (Even though I couldn't care less.) Maybe Uber should hire me as CEO, I'll even give them a discount.

Re: A profound apology

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Post by chasing »

crimsonalucard wrote: post #324
chasing wrote: post #159

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Don't confuse someone being successful because they're an asshole with someone being successful despite being an asshole.

Part of Steve Jobs success was attributed to the fact that he was an asshole not despite of it. Read his biography.

I've read two Steve Jobs biographies.

Don't confuse Steve Jobs being successful because he's an asshole with Steve Jobs being successful despite being an asshole.

Re: A profound apology

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Re: A profound apology

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Post by nunez »

brian_cloutier wrote: post #384
nunez wrote: post #379

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Holy shit. That explains why I took a S550 the other day despite it being an UberX ride. This would have been avoided if Uber had never got into the auto loan business. This is gross. I'm glad to have deleted my account and go full Lyft.

Not so fast! Lyft has done something rather similar: http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Lyft-Plus-changes-ups...

The biggest difference is that Lyft didn't create a car lending program and dupe people into thinking that their $5k/month Escalade would ALWAYS yield $10k/mo profits.

Lyft cars are wholly owned by their drivers

Re: A profound apology

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Post by crimsonalucard »

chasing wrote: post #393
crimsonalucard wrote: post #324

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of Steve Jobs success was attributed to the fact that he was an asshole not despite of it. Read his biography.

I've read two Steve Jobs biographies. Don't confuse Steve Jobs being successful because he's an asshole with Steve Jobs being successful despite being an asshole.

Steve jobs success is attributed to MANY things, part of his success is attributed to his personality for which he is known to be an asshole. If you read two biographies, you'd know.

Re: A profound apology

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Post by chasing »

crimsonalucard wrote: post #396
chasing wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read two Steve Jobs biographies. Don't confuse Steve Jobs being successful because he's an asshole with Steve Jobs being successful despite being an asshole.

Steve jobs success is attributed to MANY things, part of his success is attributed to his personality for which he is known to be an asshole. If you read two biographies, you'd know.

> Being an ass hole is sometimes an effective form of leadership. This event may be a datapoint FOR keeping him as a leader.

"Being an asshole doesn't make you Steve Jobs." - Steve Jobs

Anyway, I'd suggest you consider what kind of leader you'd be willing to follow and then work backwards to define your concept of what good leadership may or may not be.

Steve Jobs may have existed in a very special circumstance that allowed him certain, um, behavioral privileges. That does not necessarily make every aspect of his character worth modeling.

Re: A profound apology

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Post by zaphar »

Neliquat wrote: post #346
burkaman wrote: post #330

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Most people don't have the ability to choose not to rely on their employer.

But most can choose to work only for those they trust.

This is not even close to being true if you also assume most people need to eat and pay rent/mortgage.

Re: A profound apology

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Post by MaysonL »

smcmurtry wrote: post #65
jamestimmins wrote: post #26

I'm a bit unclear what is so negative about this. While there is an argument that a leader should be able to handle criticism without losing his/her temper, he appears to respond to the driver as an equal with whom he profoundly disagrees. He didn't write the man off or act as though he wasn't worth his time, he simply responded in a frustrated manner to an interaction that he clearly was not in the mood for. Does be…

>Kalanick: You know what? >Kamel: What? >Kalanick: Some people don't like to take responsibility for their own shit. They blame everything in their life on somebody else. I think that is a very insulting and superior thing to say to someone.

Note that Kalanick is in denial that he fucked the driver over. Talk about denying your responsibility for your own shit.

Re: A profound apology

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Post by Jarwain »

vecter wrote: post #380
AstralStorm wrote: post #335

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Uber could have remained a premium cab company with a fancy app, but everything start-up is rated on growth numbers, not profit, and definitely not on profit of drivers. If not for abusing growth, it would have not raised funding and would have likely failed.

What business incentive would they have to be a black car app, if they can make more money by expanding into UberX? Not to mention, if they had remained a black car app, they might have gone out of business. Uber is a business, not a charity. They exist to maximize profits. If you understand that point, then you see why your point is irrelevant. Also, what the heck does it mean to "abuse growth"?

If I had to guess, abusing growth means taking advantage of the fact that a lot of investors use growth as a core metric in their decision-making process. Thus, Uber optimising for growth over any other "more reasonable" option, just to obtain funding.
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