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Doom, Gloom and Unease: London's Tech Scene Reacts to Brexit

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Re: Doom, Gloom and Unease: London's Tech Scene Reacts to Brexit

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There is a good chance that Theresa May becomes the next MP, and if she does, British internet will be much worse than anything you can find inside the EU - she already tried cracking down on open internet multiple times. If anything, EU would have protected UK from such stupid ideas.

> There is a good chance that Theresa May becomes the next MP No, there isn't. Seriously, where are you getting your information from? Are you from the UK? There isn't a chance in hell Theresa May would even get shortlisted.

Not a chance you say?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36618738

Re: Doom, Gloom and Unease: London's Tech Scene Reacts to Brexit

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Standards like Human Rights, which is something the UK has already expressed an interest in removing.

I don't think thats true

Conservative manifesto of 2015. "Scrap the human rights act" and "curtail the role of the European court of human rights". This seemed to be reported more reputable UK news sources than just reddit (though your opinion of the guardian might vary).

There certainly seems to be more substance to it than just "random internet claims" :(

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/21/govern...

Re: Doom, Gloom and Unease: London's Tech Scene Reacts to Brexit

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Comparing a mutual union with the Nazi third Reich comes across as just racist, particularly against Germans. Is that what you intended? Also, the UK has negotiated many concessions over the years, including the rebate, various exemptions and vetos including from the ever-closer union and the euro. So a less good deal as the result of a total renegotiation we initiated is not so much a punishment as a reflection of t…

If the "we should #remain to avoid short term pain from a vindictive ex" argument is valid, then it should have been valid for Vichy France as well. Obviously it's not. You can call this sort of vindictiveness "realpolitik" and try to sound sophisticated, but this hardly invalidates my abusive ex-husband analogy.

Oh come on, I was making an actually sophisticated argument, along the lines of:

    A is true
    A is likely to cause B
    C is also true
    C is likely to cause B
    If B occurs, it is incorrect to blame only C
where A is the current exceptions made for the UK, B is a fairer deal (fairer to the other countries, which will be worse for the UK by definition) and C is your abusive ex-husband part.

And you're still comparing a mutual union of countries for their mutual and collective benefit to the Nazis?

Re: Doom, Gloom and Unease: London's Tech Scene Reacts to Brexit

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Who were these EU illegal immigrants you're talking about? The people from Poland are legal.

True, the illegal ones come from Turkey, Algeria, Afghanistan and Morocco (and I'm sure a dozen other countries). They do work in the construction sector.

then it's incorrect to say that EU is to blame here :)

Re: Doom, Gloom and Unease: London's Tech Scene Reacts to Brexit

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Well, actually it is a good characterization of the leave campaign, which won the vote and thus a valid analogy.

If that's a valid characterization of the internal debate, of what concern is that to the EU? So far, I don't see the UK screaming, huffing, or smashing doors with respect to the EU.

well, look at "Leave" campaign: racist party [1] spreads false information about almost every aspect - "let's fund NHS instead" was false and Farage almost instantly rejected that it was a proper promise; said that UK lost their borders, which is false - UK is not a member of Shengen zone;

there were constant phrases from "Leave" party that relationship with EU is abusive, UK is like slave.. it doesn't look for me like intelectual debate with polite arguments.

[1] http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-claims-...

Re: Doom, Gloom and Unease: London's Tech Scene Reacts to Brexit

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No, you don't. You remember reading about it on the equivalent of Fox news. There were no mass rapes, gropings, etc. Would you believe the papers if they said Jews were out in force, drinking the blood of your Christian babies? Edit: Oh forgive me for pointing out the blood libel. What could ever go wrong from framing an entire ethnicity for stealing our jobs and raping our women?

I have no idea what your original comment is referring to, but from my perspective you just lost the game of "let's not appear completely insane in front of strangers." That's an ineffective way of communicating your point.

The person I was replying to did. I can't help you if you refuse to research the topic.
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