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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by currysausage »

sixothree wrote: post #321
currysausage wrote: post #239

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> a broken start menu I love Windows 7, but do you honestly think the Windows 7 start menu is not broken? I believe we just got used to it over time. In Windows 7, I can either have an unstructured list of "pinned" programs, or I can manually categorize the real ("All programs") start menu. Option 1 doesn't scale beyond ~15 items (I have 22 pinned programs and it's a mess), and option 2 breaks whenever a program upda…

My biggest problem with Windows 7 and especially the start menu was that certain folders were first class citizens and other were not. I could never quite figure out how to instruct someone to get to their user folder or understand why downloads were not a library.

Oh yeah, those libraries are a PITA. I disabled them entirely (using some registry hack I guess). It's easy to forget about those little pain points once you have worked around them.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by hudell »

thescrewdriver wrote: post #151
hudell wrote: post #8

The update only froze once for me (had to hard reset). No side effects from that. This was the smoothest windows update process I've ever had. Had some trouble with Asus touchpad drivers, but after fixing that, everything is running well and nothing was lost. All previously installed software seems to be running fine.

> The update only froze once for me (had to hard reset). No side effects from that. This was the smoothest windows update process I've ever had. Having to hard reset during an update due to a freeze doesn't exactly sound like a particularly smooth process. I guess your perspective depends on your experiences with previous updates.

Yes, every other windows update I had before either: a) Failed on the first try b) Deleted files/software

Windows 10 was the first time I didn't lose anything (except the games that stopped working)

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

anonymfus wrote: post #380
WorldWideWayne wrote: post #379

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It doesn't do anything in Windows 10. (Perhaps, just when taskbar items are ungrouped , but I'm not sure.)

That is strange. It works for me both with conventional (just checked FireFox 39, Opera 12, Visual Studio 2015, Notepad) and WinRT (Calculator) applications.

Maybe I need to check again. In any case, closing a window via middle-click would make so much more sense IMO.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by WorldWideWayne »

anonymfus wrote: post #380
WorldWideWayne wrote: post #379

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It doesn't do anything in Windows 10. (Perhaps, just when taskbar items are ungrouped , but I'm not sure.)

That is strange. It works for me both with conventional (just checked FireFox 39, Opera 12, Visual Studio 2015, Notepad) and WinRT (Calculator) applications.

It turns out that I had all Settings or Control Panel type windows open when I tried that last time. Those windows don't have a new-window function.

So, I think if we need a reason to change the functionality of middle-click on a taskbar-item, that's it. Every window should have a close-window function and there would be no confusion over what middle-click means.

(Then again, I guess the designer was probably trying to protect non-power users when they decided that. A close-window function is obviously a destructive act. But power-users are such a powerful group, so I think they need to cater to use a bit more by giving us the gosh-darn options that we want!)

EDIT: Also, I take it back. I'll keep it on this machine for now and see what happens...

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by daemin »

lookbothways wrote: post #277
hetman wrote: post #245

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Except gamers will upgrade because of the performance implications of the DirectX 12 API. With an incentive like that, no one will care about the few holdouts that refuse to upgrade because they're uncomfortable with a few UI changes that don't affect what you can actually get done.

You mean like when Microsoft tried to force adoption of Windows Vista by not bringing DirectX 10 to XP, and in response developers stuck with DirectX 9 for years ? A huge portion of the gaming market (China and large parts of Asia) is still using Windows XP. D3D9 renderers aren't going anywhere.

No, DX9 renderers aren't going anywhere, but they're being abstracted away and all the shiny new code is being written for DX11 and DX12. So all of the fancy high end features will be on newer systems only, with the others having less and less support. I know because this is what I'm doing at work at this time.

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Post by s73v3r »

egeozcan wrote: post #360
s73v3r wrote: post #342

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Probably because they constantly have jerks like you claiming that any decision other than what you would have made is "irrational."

> (...) any decision other than what you would have made is "irrational." Of course! How would rationality be independent of one's values? When I'm choosing, I choose what I choose because I think the other options are, even if very slightly, worse than the one I'm choosing. If I know the full context, options and the decision made from another individual and that decision isn't the one I would make, I would call it…

I don't think it's uncalled for that someone who would judge others and call them "irrational" for something like their smartphone choice be called out as a jerk.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by dingaling »

donkeyd wrote: post #58

Dear marketing people, please stop using "The best ever". If you make a new product it should be better than the previous version, it it's not, you did something very wrong.

> Dear marketing people, please stop using "The best ever".

Reminds me of a very old Garfield strip in which he is eating the 'new and improved' food, only to ponder why they were happy to sell him 'old and inferior' for so long...

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by egeozcan »

s73v3r wrote: post #386
egeozcan wrote: post #360

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> (...) any decision other than what you would have made is "irrational." Of course! How would rationality be independent of one's values? When I'm choosing, I choose what I choose because I think the other options are, even if very slightly, worse than the one I'm choosing. If I know the full context, options and the decision made from another individual and that decision isn't the one I would make, I would call it…

I don't think it's uncalled for that someone who would judge others and call them "irrational" for something like their smartphone choice be called out as a jerk.

I didn't call anyone being irrational and definitely didn't have anyone's smartphone decision in my mind (I had, instead, people arguing for their favorite programming language in mind, to be honest). Also, I think you are more judging than I am.

At this point, I can't take what you are saying as anything more than random attacks, sorry.

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Post by ironoxide859 »

t0mbstone wrote: post #263
ironoxide859 wrote: post #243

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As a user I have issues with Windows removing a built-in DVD player. I'm one of those dinosaurs who still watches his DVDs from his laptop. It was news to me and I appreciate that it was at the top.

But that's just the thing. They didn't remove it. I have literally never been able to play DVDs in Windows without installing third party codecs or programs.

I've never had an issue playing on Windows 7 Media Player out of the box (I skipped 8 and 8.1 chaos).

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by kamjam »

Lorkki wrote: post #157
kamjam wrote: post #114

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In the EU, Microsoft sells the N edition [ http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows7/products/what-is... ], Windows sans Media Player. Thus, if you have selected the normal version, you are actually paying for Media and DVD playing capabilities.

The pricing is exactly the same, nor was the rationale ever to provide an edition for people who don't need a DVD player. You can still download and install those components freely after installing the OS.

The rationale for it was an anti-competition lawsuit brought by the EU.

The pricing may be the same, you may even be able to download the components, but the difference exists and there is choice to select something without.

They may have been forced to do it, but you are paying for a product WITH media player, same price or not.

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