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Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by cryowaffle »

Sumaso wrote: post #211
acqq wrote: post #201

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Says the account created 4 days ago in his 4th comment on the site. Hello Microsoft puppet? It's still a disaster for me because of what was once called Metro. It's my own opinion, you can like it, no problem.

Your crazy man. Don't upgrade to 10 and keep your old functionality. inversionOf is making some valid points here, there is no need to attack him.

Really though, he does seem like a marketing puppet... I have to say the title of this posting is pretty suspect when combined with the account creation date.

Edit: Ohh, green means new it doesn't mean poster. Well, who cares.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by Aleman360 »

stinos wrote: post #260
Aleman360 wrote: post #224

I work on the Start menu. It's just a UWP XAML app with Models and ViewModels written in C++/Cx, as are most of the new Shell features and built-in apps--although some of the newer ones, like Maps and Xbox, are in XAML/C#/.Net Native. Even the UI frame of Edge is in XAML, and the new Office UWP apps are too. I encourage everyone here to give UWP apps a shot; we dogfooded the dev platform to ensure it was stable and f…

I encourage everyone here to give UWP apps a shot I did, and while UWP seems still a bit immature it sure is nice. Unfortunately I have a couple of existing and pretty huge WPF apps and it does not seem you can 'port' that to UWP in some way (except like rewriting all UI code - or am I missing something?) so I don't think I'm gonna switch anytime soon and I'm probably not alone?

Yea unfortunately the new XAML isn't 100% compatible with the old XAML. Things like DataTriggers no longer exist; everything is Visual State Manager. On the plus side, though, UWP XAML perf is significantly better than WPF XAML.

WPF is still supported however, and recently got improvements in .Net 4.6. There are plans to allow WPF apps (and other Win32-based apps) to be published on the Windows Store, so you might not have to worry about porting, as long as you're happy just targeting PC users.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by t0mbstone »

ironoxide859 wrote: post #243
inversionOf wrote: post #180

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Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. Windows 8.1 had no built in DVD player. Nor did Windows 7 Starter or Basic. Further, I suspect it's a feature that the vast majority of people have never used, exactly why Microsoft decided that they wouldn't subsidize the licensing for no reason. This is a very 2002 discussion. Not that your point isn't valid -- at least for those users who ever act…

As a user I have issues with Windows removing a built-in DVD player. I'm one of those dinosaurs who still watches his DVDs from his laptop. It was news to me and I appreciate that it was at the top.

But that's just the thing. They didn't remove it. I have literally never been able to play DVDs in Windows without installing third party codecs or programs.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by pearle »

acqq wrote: post #6

Note that the upgrade will remove your Windows built-in DVD player. The right to play DVDs must be paid for every computer. You paid it when you bought the Windows 7 or 8 that you'll maybe upgrade to 10. Now the upgrade to Windows 10 takes that feature away from you. They apparently (the twitter message isn't actually the company statement) plan to return it "sometime in the future" and "if it might be free or if it…

I upgraded to Windows 10 Home from Windows 7 Home Premium and I have a Windows DVD player installed.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by dade_ »

LocalPCGuy wrote: post #223
deciplex wrote: post #3

Reminder that Microsoft installed adware on Windows 7/8 machines to encourage users to upgrade to Windows 10. Even if you hid the update from Windows Update, they un-hid it and reinstalled at least once that I know of. Don't reward this behavior by buying Windows 10. Or at least delay the purchase as long as possible.

It isn't AdWare...sheesh. It's a notification from a vendor you "trust" (I say trust because if you are using their OS, there is some measure of trust).

It also does a system check and confirms for the user that their system supports Windows 10 so it actually does something of value for a user.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by MrDosu »

72deluxe wrote: post #175
ak217 wrote: post #93

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My experience has been the opposite. To me Windows 10 is the continuation of the 8/8.1 trainwreck, with the ridiculous Metro skins, a broken start menu, the half-assed fragmentation of the UIs into Metro/non-Metro, ham-handed app store/online services integrations, and various new features that do not work. I'll be going back to Windows 7, in which at least the UI works. And really, the only thing keeping me attached…

One thing I noticed from the tech preview I tried the other month was that whilst the press excitedly noticed new "settings" apps in parallel with the control panel and proudly announced new technologies, there is still decades of old cruft lying around. I know they have much work to do but it still feels like an operating system of many parts, all glued together. Some issues I noticed in the preview I tried: 1. The…

Backwards compatibility is a STRONG point of windows, not a drawback.

Remember that this is something used by business users. Technologies like COM are without equal in the field (native automation of every major software for example).

The only negative points you mention are icons and the pure existence of things you obviously don't and can't use. It's all in all a very silly paragraph you wrote.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by ikeboy »

currysausage wrote: post #254
ikeboy wrote: post #218

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>only for personal use; and only on the rare occasion when I need to run the odd Windows-only application. If you're using it rarely, why not use the trial version, and reset to a snapshot whenever you use it? You can save data on a separate virtual disk, and only reset the operating system disk. There used to be VMs at https://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/ . I don't see Windows 10 there right now, not sure why, but I kno…

Would that actually work? Wouldn't the trial version still notice that it was initialized more than 90 days ago? I don't want to initialize the OS whenever I use it.

It doesn't take that long to initialize, and you only need to do it every 90 days. If you get the pre-installed VM, it only takes a couple minutes from first boot to ready to use.

Besides, I think you can "rearm" and use for another 90 days or more.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by acqq »

t0mbstone wrote: post #263
ironoxide859 wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a user I have issues with Windows removing a built-in DVD player. I'm one of those dinosaurs who still watches his DVDs from his laptop. It was news to me and I appreciate that it was at the top.

But that's just the thing. They didn't remove it. I have literally never been able to play DVDs in Windows without installing third party codecs or programs.

All the DVDs I've bought which were marked as protected I've played on more legally bought Windows 7 and 8 computers without the 3rd party programs.

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by anonymfus »

Aleman360 wrote: post #257
anonymfus wrote: post #252

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How do you get feedback about localisation? Russian version shipped with the word "Создать" (literally "Create") as the translation for the "New" mark in the list of all applications, despite many heavily upvoted posts in the feedback app.

Through the feedback app. After enough upvotes, it gets automatically routed to the feature team for triage.

Are there separate translation/localisation teams for different components of the system?

What happens when it automatically routed to the wrong team?

Re: Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

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Post by Someone1234 »

Aleman360 wrote: post #255
Someone1234 wrote: post #249

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Considering Windows 10's new development methodology, you guys can continue to update the Start Menu. So I have two questions/concerns: - Do you have a strategy to allow users to modify the Start Menu directly (e.g. akin to a bookmark manager tool). As far as I can tell right click no longer works, so renaming a folder, creating a folder, moving icons, or similar is impossible. The only way to accomplish this now is…

1. Stay tuned. We've received a lot of feedback on that. We do look at the Windows Feedback app reports; it's all automated, so once something gets upvoted enough it gets routed to the feature team. 2. I'm personally working on all apps list improvements. I don't know if I can share details yet until we push stuff out to Insiders. One UI feature that makes dealing with the narrow list a little easier is the jump list…

Thanks for the info. It is welcome to hear that the Start Menu will continue to evolve based on user feedback. Windows 10 is certainly launching in a strong place regardless.
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