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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by dblohm7 »

joshstrange wrote: post #74
theVirginian wrote: post #68

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I heard a rumor a while back that Firefox was developing a browser targeted at web developers. Not sure if thats unnecessary or what but if it materializes I'll probably give it a try.

Yeah, I remember getting excited when I read about that. I'll give it a shot when it comes out but there are a number of little things that annoy me with FF web dev tools that I doubt they will fix. Also I really need to dev on the SAME browser the product will be released on and not some special dev build. Edit: Oh now I remember why I wrote off: > Firefox Developer Edition replaces the Aurora channel in the Firefox…

There is more to Dev Edition than a rename.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by corndoge »

terminado wrote: post #292
JohnTHaller wrote: post #139

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You absolutely must link your Google Chrome install to your Google ID on Windows or you will lose data. Google Chrome now has a "feature" that will automatically reset your homepage, search settings, wipe all extensions and wipe all extension data whenever it detects an unexpected change to any of your settings files or they do not match up to the PC they are locked to. The goal was to prevent third parties from hija…

You absolutely must link your Google Chrome install to your Google ID on Windows or you will lose data. Oh man... Settings and bookmarks are not "data" in any substantial sense. Incognito mode at all times, no Google ID ever, trash local history on every exit. I don't carry the expectation that my bookmarks must live on and follow me from machine to machine. I don't care about what my search preferences are. I simply…

Judging by your comment, I bet you're also fed up with the web being overloaded and scripted to hell to build enterprise applications on top of a system that was only designed to deliver plain readable text with links to other plain readable text. Me too.

I think web applications should never have existed. The web was designed for hypertext, images, and other static consumable content. It wasn't designed to be a platform for massive distributed applications. Why are there so many security fuckups on the web? Because it wasn't designed to be secure. The fact that people are now programming desktop applications in JavaScript against NodeJS suggests to me that the web has gone too far. We should have built something new to handle what we now call "web applications".

I, too, look at huge disgusting URLs every day and wonder why we didn't see this coming.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by matthewmacleod »

pbreit wrote: post #270
doe88 wrote: post #18

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They want to make their little OS inside your current OS, so that's it, they introduce accounts, users, apps, notifications... Meanwhile most people (including me) just want to browse the damn open internet.

Sorry, but "most people" couldn't care less about whatever concerns you have and actually appreciate the benefits of easier Google app usage.

I'm not sure that's totally true – the number of people I've seen who are frustrated by constant popups, reminders and so on far outweighs the number of people who I've encountered talking about how much they want to sign into multiple accounts…

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by imchillyb »

I use chrome on every device that allows the install.

I've not experienced these slowdowns or crashes, on any of the machines that I use. (PCs, Phones, Tablets...) Perhaps something you've installed (your extensions maybe?), is giving you issues.

Your problem could be as simple as you're using the wrong versions of java and chrome together. Mix-n-match 64-32 bit doesn't work well at all.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by smsm42 »

FilterJoe wrote: post #177
gvb wrote: post #15

I read the article hoping for something insightful, but when I read the paragraph ...a half-dozen tabs that auto-open on launch thanks to the dozens of extensions I've accumulated over the years[...] I had to stop and say "wait, what?" To leverage his analogy that it is like coming home to a new house to find that most of your stuff is already there, it is like not cleaning your house and not taking out the trash for…

The problem is using many open tabs with Chrome. If you use no more than 3 or 4 tabs, Chrome is generally fine. If you use more than that, Firefox has some built-in features to help with tabs such as delayed tab loading and tab grouping. It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Furthermore, it doesn't launch a new process for each tab. In a browser comparison I wrote last month, I includ…

This extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/the-great-suspende... helped me a lot keeping multiple tabs under control. I tend to leave tabs open for days, sometimes weeks, and come to them later. I don't want to waste memory all that time to just keep a tab open. So this extension helps with that.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by wanderview »

kyllo wrote: post #310

The only reason I don't use Firefox anymore is because it doesn't automatically pick up changes in my proxy settings, whereas Chrome does. So with Chrome I can have tabs open on my laptop at work, then bring it home and continue to use the same tabs, while with Firefox I have to remember to go in and change my proxy settings.

I asked our networking folks and there are couple parts to fix this. First, this bug recently landed which allows us to respect the system network status better:

  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=939318
I believe thats enabled on windows in FF35, but won't be enabled in Mac/Linux until FF38.

There is a separate issue to deal specifically with recovering from proxy settings that have gone bad, though:

  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121800
Work has not started there, but its on our radar.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by Touche »

jcoffland wrote: post #245
FilterJoe wrote: post #177

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The problem is using many open tabs with Chrome. If you use no more than 3 or 4 tabs, Chrome is generally fine. If you use more than that, Firefox has some built-in features to help with tabs such as delayed tab loading and tab grouping. It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Furthermore, it doesn't launch a new process for each tab. In a browser comparison I wrote last month, I includ…

I regularly have several hundred tabs open in Firefox with no problems. Some people may think this is crazy or messy but I find it very useful for organizing the various projects I'm working on for different clients and my own personal projects. Tab groups and delayed loading make it all very smooth. Such usage is just not possible with Chrome. I tried to switch to Chrome but couldn't find the features I needed and d…

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by zzleeper »

benjaminpv wrote: post #348
jcoffland wrote: post #245

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I regularly have several hundred tabs open in Firefox with no problems. Some people may think this is crazy or messy but I find it very useful for organizing the various projects I'm working on for different clients and my own personal projects. Tab groups and delayed loading make it all very smooth. Such usage is just not possible with Chrome. I tried to switch to Chrome but couldn't find the features I needed and d…

I find that over time I end up with a bunch of tabs whose content seems interesting that grow over time. My working set is off to one side while the 'to read' tabs stack up over to the left. I'd found a big boon for this workflow in the very simple extension "Export Tabs[1]." It's really simple: click an icon on the toolbar and it lists open tabs by title and then by URL. Now when I notice that I've got a real glut o…

That's amazing! Much easier than managing the mess that is chrome bookmark manager, when you just want to save something for a while and not forever.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by voidlogic »

Ar-Curunir wrote: post #220
dragonshed wrote: post #174

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This. Have the scales tipped the other way recently? Chrome still feels faster to me, but I only have one active extension (Ad Blocker).

Chrome doesn't work well for me on Linux at all, whereas Firefox functions beautifully.

While "work well at all" might be an exaggeration, I have found Firefox to run much better than Chrome/Chromium on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS as well.

Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by dergachev »

ntsh wrote: post #364
soperj wrote: post #336

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Ctrl-w kills a tab. Makes that kind of thing completely painless.

Sometimes Ctrl+w can lead to horrible pain if you accidentally hit Q which is just next to w.

Chrome has a menu item toggle called "Warn before quitting" that I just enabled, and it has already saved me a bunch of times!!!! In OSX it's under the Chrome menu item (before File), don't know where they stuck it in Windows.
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