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Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Re: Fuck It, I'm Going Back to Firefox

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Post by silverbax88 »

bitslayer wrote: post #296
FilterJoe wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is using many open tabs with Chrome. If you use no more than 3 or 4 tabs, Chrome is generally fine. If you use more than that, Firefox has some built-in features to help with tabs such as delayed tab loading and tab grouping. It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Furthermore, it doesn't launch a new process for each tab. In a browser comparison I wrote last month, I includ…

The whole point of having separate processes for each tab is that it isolates them. If one crashes, the others remain up. It supports multiple processors, too.

I would ask you to open up your task manager and try picking the largest-in-memory Chrome task and kill it, then see if you still think they are completely isolated. I agree with your point, but give it a shot.

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Post by protonfish »

nvk wrote: post #7

The biggest issue I have with Chrome is how aggressive it's been about linking Google IDs with the browser. I've lost data twice by bugs related to not having a linked ID. Please Google, understand this; I don't want my browser linked with my Google account.

This is probably one of the reasons why I have been using Firefox for web browsing and Chrome only as a dedicated gmail reader. I doubt this is what Google wants, but it has been working great for me.

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Post by Slippery_John »

FilterJoe wrote: post #177
gvb wrote: post #15

I read the article hoping for something insightful, but when I read the paragraph ...a half-dozen tabs that auto-open on launch thanks to the dozens of extensions I've accumulated over the years[...] I had to stop and say "wait, what?" To leverage his analogy that it is like coming home to a new house to find that most of your stuff is already there, it is like not cleaning your house and not taking out the trash for…

The problem is using many open tabs with Chrome. If you use no more than 3 or 4 tabs, Chrome is generally fine. If you use more than that, Firefox has some built-in features to help with tabs such as delayed tab loading and tab grouping. It also has more and better extensions for helping with multiple tabs. Furthermore, it doesn't launch a new process for each tab. In a browser comparison I wrote last month, I includ…

Tabs were one of the major reasons I switched over to Chrome. At the time, firefox resized the tabs as soon as space became available, making closing a bunch of tabs a pain. They don't do that anymore, but now they have the tab scrolling feature which adds a gui element if there are too many tabs. Thing is, once you close enough tabs, those elements go away immediately, making closing a bunch of tabs a pain.

Biggest reason I switched, which is still the true (though less so), is that Chrome takes up less screen real estate.

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Post by acheron »

hjeldin wrote: post #154

Wait, has gizmodo turned into a blog lately? I mean, that's not journalism, that's a rant supported by no benchmarking or any evidence of sort...and while i do agree on the message, i believe that anyone who wants to be called journalist should at least write like one.

It's a Gawker site. Expecting anything more than clickbait trash is just going to bring disappointment.

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Post by tdkl »

Top 2 things that suck in FF that makes me stick with Chrome, despite wanting to part ways with Google mothership :

- sync (Chrome syncs everything while being reliable) - mobile Android app (FF mobile has insane scrolling behaviour, that's out of place on the platform).

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Post by marcosdumay »

hackuser wrote: post #190
moe wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I left Firefox because it was measurably slower than Chrome at the time (and not by a small margin) and because crashes/hangs would usually take the whole Browser down.

> I left Firefox mainly because it was measurably slower than Chrome at the time (and not by a small margin) I have no idea what your experience was, of course. Many people said this for years while Firefox consistently won or tied in objective comparisons. Having dealt with end-user complaints for years, I've learned to doubt reports that rely on subjective perceptions of things like 'speed'. Sometimes the new, cool…

There was a time where Firefox was slow, used lots and lots of memory, and crashed all the time. And yet, developers doubted that was true at bug discussions.

It took some time, but the developers finally convinced themselves that the problem existed, and started fixing it. It also took some time to fix most thing, but now Firefox is stable and fast. Nowadays Chrome it is slow and too "smart".

Anyway, complete comparisons of megabyte-sized sofware, with gigabyte-sized states must take longer than the age of the Universe to run. Anything smaller is not complete enough to exclude bugs.

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Post by timdorr »

macNchz wrote: post #58
nvk wrote: post #7

The biggest issue I have with Chrome is how aggressive it's been about linking Google IDs with the browser. I've lost data twice by bugs related to not having a linked ID. Please Google, understand this; I don't want my browser linked with my Google account.

This was the driving reason I switched back to Firefox as my main browser about a year ago. It reached a tipping point when I discovered that there was no way to unlink a Google apps business account from Chrome without resetting the browser entirely. Being that I'd never intended to 'sign into Chrome' in the first place (the form looks awfully similar to the gmail login), I essentially rage-quit Chrome and haven't l…

You can just create a new Chrome "user", linked to another Google account (or not), make it the primary account, and delete the old one.

They've actually gotten very upfront about their user features in recent versions. It's a great toolset for maintaining different sessions with multiple sites. Or for using as an incognito session with less ephemeral data.

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Post by kyllo »

The only reason I don't use Firefox anymore is because it doesn't automatically pick up changes in my proxy settings, whereas Chrome does. So with Chrome I can have tabs open on my laptop at work, then bring it home and continue to use the same tabs, while with Firefox I have to remember to go in and change my proxy settings.
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