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Re: Atom

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Post by avoutthere »

gavinpc wrote: post #377
tzs wrote: post #341

From "The Zen of Programming": ------ Hearing a disturbance, the master programmer went into the novice's cubicle. "Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files. This is truly intolerable!" The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state…

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

Time Machine is perhaps the most elegant, least intrusive backup software ever. And it's free with OS X. I can't recommend it highly enough, especially for someone in your wife's position.

Re: Atom

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Post by adito »

crazygringo wrote: post #144

I was all ready to be skeptical and everything... but this could actually be amazing. I currently use Chocolat for code editing, which is beautifully elegant and I love it, but there are 25 little tiny things that I really wish I could fix. I file issues, but the developers rightly have their own priorities. It's closed-source, but even if it were open source, I'm not about to learn how to use XCode and Objective C a…

> But if Atom is ultimately just a big collection of straight-up node.js files, and anyone can go in at any time to change a line here or there -- and it's in JavaScript, so it couldn't be easier for programmers in general -- and there's no compilation step or anything -- then it's almost a fundamental paradigm shift for what desktop software could be.

http://discuss.atom.io/t/atom-is-so-powerful-that-it-blows-m...

> How I felt after that? I felt awesome. I had only installed Atom minutes ago. I didn't even had to think to fix my problem. All the knowledge I needed was already in my head! It was simple as editing a webpage. TL;DR: Atom allowed me to fix one simple problem – that I still encounter in most text editors nowadays – in seconds. What about yours?

Re: Atom

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Post by xerophtye »

hnriot wrote: post #374
timmm wrote: post #371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> people didn't born knowing Javascript. They learnt it. And one could argue that Lisp is just as easy to learn Just about everyone here knows javascript. Almost know one here knows Lisp, make your own conclusions.

* Almost know one here knows Lisp, make your own conclusions. nor English it seems :)

Still waiting for someone to correct the GP...

"No one is born knowing JS" or "No one was born..."

Re: Atom

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Post by benlarcey »

gavinpc wrote: post #377
tzs wrote: post #341

From "The Zen of Programming": ------ Hearing a disturbance, the master programmer went into the novice's cubicle. "Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files. This is truly intolerable!" The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state…

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

As mentioned time machine is a great feature, but doesn't OS X auto save files you're working on with its versions? You might want to double check that it hasn't got past versions saved.

Re: Atom

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Post by greyskull »

nhangen wrote: post #380
gavinpc wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

Cmd z?

She probably had closed the file before the "o crap". Undo does no good there.

Re: Atom

#386

Post by greyskull »

Gracana wrote: post #364
tzs wrote: post #341

From "The Zen of Programming": ------ Hearing a disturbance, the master programmer went into the novice's cubicle. "Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files. This is truly intolerable!" The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state…

I think the first assertion is simply untrue, and without it the rest is nonsense. You don't need to learn how to use multiple editors to do anything. I suppose there are some languages/environments that are somewhat tied to certain editors (java and eclipse, C# and visual studio, objective-C and xcode), but that's not what is proposed here. It's a general purpose programmer's editor that anyone can use for anything.…

I think it's also worth mentioning that Atom, like Sublime, looks straight-forward out of the box. You don't need to learn much to be productive. It doesn't have the learning curve of vim/emacs, but it's more powerful than Sublime/Notepad++/Gedit etc.

Also, I don't think anyone needs more than one general purpose text editor like vim or Sublime or Notepad++, and possibly a full-featured IDE like IntelliJ or Visual Studio. If there's a counter-argument, I'd like to read it.

Re: Atom

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Post by prehkugler »

benlarcey wrote: post #384
gavinpc wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

As mentioned time machine is a great feature, but doesn't OS X auto save files you're working on with its versions? You might want to double check that it hasn't got past versions saved.

The file revision history is - to the best of my knowledge - an OS X API that applications have to use (opt in). I don't think it comes "for free" with an OS upgrade, unless you mean Time Machine.

Re: Atom

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Post by jbellis »

avoutthere wrote: post #381
gavinpc wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files OT, but just this week my wife did something that really got me thinking about how far computers haven't come in terms of usability. I heard her say "O crap" from behind her macbook, and out of habit I came to assist. For some reason unknown to both of us, she had pasted the text of an email into a document called "thesis.docx", and then saved it. The text was c…

Time Machine is perhaps the most elegant, least intrusive backup software ever. And it's free with OS X. I can't recommend it highly enough, especially for someone in your wife's position.

To belabor the obvious: Time Machine saves old versions for you even if you don't have a separate backup disk, subject to available disk space.
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