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Post by tzs »

From "The Zen of Programming":

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Hearing a disturbance, the master programmer went into the novice's cubicle.

"Curse these personal computers!" cried the novice in anger, "To make them do anything I must use three or even four editing programs. Sometimes I get so confused that I erase entire files. This is truly intolerable!"

The master programmer stared at the novice. "And what would you do to remedy this state of affairs?" he asked.

The novice thought for a moment. "I will design a new editing program," he said, "a program that will replace all these others."

Suddenly the master struck the novice on the side of his head. It was not a heavy blow, but the novice was nonetheless surprised. "What did you do that for?" exclaimed the novice.

"I have no wish to learn another editing program," said the master.

And suddenly the novice was enlightened.

Re: Atom

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Post by Dewie »

rjzzleep wrote: post #196
theboywho wrote: post #184

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Why is seeing your friends comments and code reviews in the text editor any better than seeing them in the browser? Are we becoming this lazy? or this busy?

i see people saying less context switches. but isn't this the exact opposite? it's way more context switches? isn't this the same as having our mails popup up notifications every so often or your gmail aggregating twitter and Facebook, because people thought it would make them more productive

They're not quite the same. Those are push-notifications. Push/pull is orthogonal to what application you use for which purposes, especially if you have a desktop were you get such push notifications thrown at your peripheral vision no matter what application you're in.

Re: Atom

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Post by rodgerd »

justizin wrote: post #110
ahuth wrote: post #56

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I think he means that we need editors that are powerful AND easy to use. Seems like vim isn't really for someone like me (I haven't studied PhD level computer science and I don't write compilers and/or lisp interpreters in my spare time for fun).

I taught Linux Admin courses before I graduated high school, and the first order was learning vim. If you have a mac, 'vimtutor' is available to you. vim has nothing to do with PhD-level CS or writing compilers and/or lisp interpreters. The Emacs community might fit that stereotype a little more but really not much more. Vi (vim being 'vi improved') is great because it works on basically any terminal. It works with m…

> Vi (vim being 'vi improved') is great because it works on basically any terminal.

Then one day you're riding herd on a flock of zLinux images and troubleshooting boot problems through a 3270 terminal with (s)ed as your only friends.

Re: Atom

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Post by xster »

brian_cloutier wrote: post #243
mikeevans wrote: post #97

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Any chance for ChromeOS support?

It's most likely not possible until there's a "hosted atom" you connect to with your browser. ChromeOS is /just/ a web browser and won't run node, which Atom uses to do its processing.

You can make offline apps for ChromeOS/Chrome

Re: Atom

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Post by Dewie »

yeukhon wrote: post #339
victorhooi wrote: post #298

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See, I never get the tinfoil hat crowd. Are any of us so self-important, that we think our usage stats for a text editor are some kind of top-secret data? I mean, come on - it's a text editor - I edit my scratchpad and my coding projects on it. If any of the stuff I had was that top-secret, I'd be doing it in a digital clean-room, with an airgap. And I'd actually have top-secret clearance. How many of us here actuall…

I just don't understand why people downvote you. It's quite stupid to downvote someone who is merely pointing out facts. Google analytic is everywhere. If you don't want Github to track you, then don't use it. So if people fear Google, then should Github do the tracking on its own? Then all the sudden Github is not evil anymore. But look: github has your repository, your code. If you have a private repo, github still…

So it's either all or nothing? It's possible to concede some privacy in some aspects of work/life while trying to retain it in another. Even though you have a Github account doesn't mean that all your code is on Github. You might not have remotely close to all the work you do in an editor on Github, at least if you're the kind of person who's more comfortable in your favorite editor than in a word-processor. People have been power users of editors for decades without needing the cloud or a remote, third party service in order to use them.

Re: Atom

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Post by xster »

flyosity wrote: post #13
ohhmaar wrote: post #3

I don't like how it looks like Sublime text... couldn't they have designed something new?

As the designer who worked on the main interface for Sublime Text 2, it does irk me that it looks so similar. They had carte blanche to create a wonderful new interface and they mostly just copied Sublime Text. The go-to anything menu looks especially similar. https://t.co/5YxVbZcVcK

The find/replace panel seems xerox'ed too

Re: Atom

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Post by Dewie »

victorhooi wrote: post #328
shittyanalogy wrote: post #314

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Some people with lives "not that interesting" don't want to give up their privacy. Some of us even understand that there is no such thing as "anonymous statistics". It's not about a big government spying conspiracy. It's about basic privacy and not giving out data about yourself that you don't want to give out. There are also enormous trust implications.

Hmm - but let's take your idea and think it through to it's completion. It's fine to say, oh but the privacy! But that in itself isn't an argument. It's just an appeal to emotion, with no facts. What do you think will happen if Github has usage data on how you use their text editor? Or what do you think will happen if Google knows what websites you search for? These aren't rhetorical questions - I'm actually curious…

> It's fine to say, oh but the privacy! But that in itself isn't an argument. It's just an appeal to emotion, with no facts.

How about: I don't like to be watched. That's a fact, though I'm sure you'll dismiss it as an appeal to emotion.

Re: Atom

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Post by reeses »

lord_quas wrote: post #277
dusklight wrote: post #237

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check out lighttable [ http://www.chris-granger.com/2014/01/07/light-table-is-open-... ]

Checkout lighttable.el https://github.com/Fuco1/litable

Nice. I was able to read and understand the whole implementation on my phone.

Of course, thanks to Apple, I can't load and eval it, but I will take it for a spin when I get to a machine. :)

Re: Atom

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Post by ytpete »

jamesmoss wrote: post #212

I've just had play around with the beta. It looks like it's using a version of CodeMirror 4 (as it has multiple ranges). Fairly fast but it doesn't match Sublime Text just yet Initial impressions: it's early days but this thing is just oozing for customisation. The fact it's written in JS means writing packages is pretty simple compared to Python for ST; we're going to see TONNES of addons for it. I can already think…

Fwiw, Brackets (http://brackets.io) supports a similar degree of customization since it's also written in JS/HTML, uses CodeMirror, and offers lots of extensibility APIs. And it's MIT-licensed. Writing an extension is as easy as this: https://github.com/adobe/brackets/wiki/Simple-"Hello-World"-...
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