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Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by bluegatty »

twodave wrote: post #373
bluegatty wrote: post #86

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Is this a joke? I hope? A) drinking a glass of water is 'the lowest bar' and 2) using creatine means you have to up your water intake. If you don't drink the water, it won't work.

I still drink the water, I just can’t stand the texture with creatine added. So I swallow the creatine with as little water as possible and drink nice fresh water afterwards :)

Creatine is mostly soluble - it does not have a 'texture' in water.

Or a taste.

It literally dissolves in the water, meaning, you can't tell it's there.

If there's something uncomfortable about the extra bits that don't dissolve (?), then just add more water.

Beyond that, this may be psychosomatic, you're possibly reacting to the 'thought' of the creatine, not the substance.

Much of the reactions here are that. "Creatine made me feel this and that" Merely following the instructions to 'drink a lot more water' could bring about benefits.

The biggest factor, is that most of the time when people are embarking on 'creatine' - they are changing other lifestyle habits, esp. working out - and so the 'creatine effect' is really hard to isolate.

Only way to know for sure is to keep a log of lifestyle stuff and check that objectively.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by wtetzner »

cryptoegorophy wrote: post #90
j45 wrote: post #18

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After 10g or so, the excess starts going to the brain which helps quite a bit with brain energy.

What exactly does it do? What is brain energy?

> What is brain energy?

ATP: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adenosine_triphosphate

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by wtetzner »

amai wrote: post #369

How comes people in the gym don’t seem to profit from that? Maybe the reason is that you also need to train your brain, when you are taking creatine. Otherwise it is just wasted. It is the same if you just take creatine, but don’t do any sports. It will have no effect.

You need to take a larger dose. Your muscles absorb it first, so you end up needing to take a lot more to get it to your brain cells.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by piskov »

insanitybit wrote: post #312
piskov wrote: post #296

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For now there are zero studies that I know of that support this. The only ones are for sleep deprived.

There are a number of studies on the topic of varying quality but I think that's besides the point. > It’s called a loading phase This is not about a loading phase. "It's called a loading phase" indicates that the reason you would take high doses is for the muscular saturation that some people think is required. You're right that you can absolutely skip the loading phase, but that's not the point. The point is that y…

Please give me a link to at least one study with verified cognitive benefits of high-intake creatine which is not for sleep-deprived case.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by insanitybit »

piskov wrote: post #384
insanitybit wrote: post #312

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There are a number of studies on the topic of varying quality but I think that's besides the point. > It’s called a loading phase This is not about a loading phase. "It's called a loading phase" indicates that the reason you would take high doses is for the muscular saturation that some people think is required. You're right that you can absolutely skip the loading phase, but that's not the point. The point is that y…

Please give me a link to at least one study with verified cognitive benefits of high-intake creatine which is not for sleep-deprived case.

I'm not going to Google this for you, sorry! They're out there though.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by piskov »

insanitybit wrote: post #385
piskov wrote: post #384

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Please give me a link to at least one study with verified cognitive benefits of high-intake creatine which is not for sleep-deprived case.

I'm not going to Google this for you, sorry! They're out there though.

Well, I did. Also with chatgpt agent to specifically go through pubmed and what have you.

The results were zero

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by RHSman2 »

karmakurtisaani wrote: post #279
RHSman2 wrote: post #155

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My personal experience has been dramatic: 5/6g a day. Very demanding job with lots of ‘thinking’ 3 times a week gym Pre creatine I would struggle to maintain ability to do the hard thinking around 3pm. Just like, fog or I could feel my brain didn’t have capacity. Now, I am capable till the end of the day. Feels like a well trained athlete at the end of a game being able to deliver rather than just holding on.

Same, I feel I have way less brain fog days after taking creatine. Might be also due to more active lifestyle, which creatine is a part of.

I can off a few times and did loose the energy and focus.

I really noticed the effect coming back in but now it is my new normal.

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by relevant_stats »

vidarh wrote: post #290
relevant_stats wrote: post #166

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Yes, and the problem we are having here is 'raw' output. LLMgenerated slop is zero-effort bullshit, not an elaborate scheme to prove a philosophical thesis. There is no economy for mediaworkers doing the latter. Similar as with coding, yes, halting problem!, but we've been always reviewing code nonetheless.

When I'm talking about raw vs. something processed here, the only processing I'm talking about is a prompt or two to clean up the obvious artefacts.

I'd be interested to test your claim, could you show me examples of this "prompt or two"?

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by computerphage »

pydry wrote: post #59
computerphage wrote: post #34

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Do you?? Show me an HN thread where half the comments are paid for

How can you accurately detect what is and isn't a not? You seem very confident you can tell the difference so I thought I'd ask first.

In my view, you're the one claiming to be able to tell the difference! You said, "You tend to see that more..."

...which I took to mean that there were threads where you can look at the comments and categorize them into the two categories and then assert that the size of the paid comments category was larger on posts for high margin than it is for low margin.

Like, it makes sense that the incentive is stronger in that case, but that's not what you said. You said "you tend to see that more"

Re: Creatine raises brain energy levels and slows cognitive decline: study

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Post by twodave »

bluegatty wrote: post #381
twodave wrote: post #373

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I still drink the water, I just can’t stand the texture with creatine added. So I swallow the creatine with as little water as possible and drink nice fresh water afterwards :)

Creatine is mostly soluble - it does not have a 'texture' in water. Or a taste. It literally dissolves in the water, meaning, you can't tell it's there. If there's something uncomfortable about the extra bits that don't dissolve (?), then just add more water. Beyond that, this may be psychosomatic, you're possibly reacting to the 'thought' of the creatine, not the substance. Much of the reactions here are that. "Crea…

Is there a point to this? Yeah, it's difficult to get it to dissolve completely. For me, it is easier (and faster) to just dump it directly in the mouth and chug water after. So, not sure what you're disputing but it's probably a waste of your time :)
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