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Re: Dead Internet Theory

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post #145

Such posts are identifiable and rare, disproving Dead Internet Theory (for now).

for now.

Even this submission is out of date as images no longer have the mangled hand issues.

We are actually blessed right now in that it's easy to spot AI posts. In 6 months or so, things will be much harder. We are cooked.

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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post #256

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You are absolutely right is something some people in some variants of English say all the time. It may grate but to me, it grates less than "correct" which is a major sign of arrogant "I decide what is right or wrong" and when I hear it, outside of a context where somebody is the arbiter or teacher, I switch off. But you're absolutely wrong about youre absolutely right. It's a bit hokey, but it's not a machine made s…

If AI generated content uses it significantly more than the average person then it is a machine signifier, even if some humans also use it.

It could add to a weighted score. That's about as far as I'd go personally.

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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Apps that require verification of "humanity" are going to get trendy. I'm thinking of world app for instance.

I guess the point of that would be to discourage average users from making AI slop? Can't imagine that this would stop bot farms from doing what they always done - hire people to perform these "humanity" checks once in a while when necessary.

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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Basically: Rage Bait is winning :/

> The Oxford Word of the Year 2025 is rage bait

> Rage bait is defined as “online content deliberately designed to elicit anger or outrage by being frustrating, provocative, or offensive, typically posted in order to increase traffic to or engagement with a particular web page or social media content”.

https://corp.oup.com/news/the-oxford-word-of-the-year-2025-i...

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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post #187

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It's a band-aid solution, given that eventually AI content will be indistinguishable from real-world content. Maybe we'll even see a net of fake videos citing fake news articles, etc. Of course there are still "trusted" mainstream sources, expect they can inadvertently (or for other reasons) misstate facts as well. I believe it will get harder and harder to reason about what's real.

It's not really any different that stopping selling counterfeit goods on a platform. Which is a challenge, but hardly insurmountable and the pay off from AI videos won't be nearly so good. You can make a few thousand a day selling knock offs to a small amount of people and get reliably paid within 72 hours. To make the same off of "content" you would have to get millions of views and the pay out timeframe is weeks if…

Well then email spam will never have an incentive. That is a relief! I was going to predict that someday people would start sending millions of misleading emails or texts!

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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post #329

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> it's common for people to be bad at a second language Non-native speaker here: huh, is "you are absolutely right" wrong somehow? I.e., are you a bad english speaker for using it? Fully agree (I guess "fully agree" is the common one?) with this criticism of the article, to me that colloquialism does not sound fishy at all. There might also be two effects at play: 1. Speech "bubbles" where your preferred language is…

It's a valid English phrase but it's also not unlikely that someone states something as a fact and then goes immediately to "you are absolutely right" when told it's wrong - but AI does that all the time.

It fails the basic human behaviour. In general humans are not ready to admit fault. At least when there is no social pressure. They might apologize and admit mistake. Or they might ask for clarification. But very rarely "You are absolute right" and go on entirely new tangent...

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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post #321

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Some keyboards and operating systems — iOS is one of them — convert two dashes into an emdash.

I can’t wait for my keyboard to start auto-completing “Your” with “are absolutely right!”

In this case Apple has cared about typography since its very beginning. Steve Jobs obsessed over it. The OS also replaces simple quotes with fancier ones.

I do the same on my websites. It's embedded into my static site generator.

Very related: https://practicaltypography.com/

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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My parents were tricked the other day by a fake youtube video of "racist cop" doing something bad and getting outraged by it. I watch part of the video and even though it felt off I couldn't immediately tell for sure if it was fake or not. Nevertheless I googled the names and details and found nothing but repostings of the video. Then I looked at the youtube channel info and there it said it uses AI for "some" of the…

I fail to understand your worry. This will change nothing regarding some people’s tendency to foster and exploit negative emotions for traction and money. “AI makes it easier”, was it hard to stumble across out-of-context clips and photoshops that worked well enough to create divisiveness? You worry about what could happen but everything already has happened.

> “AI makes it easier”, was it hard to stumble across out-of-context clips and photoshops that worked well enough to create divisiveness?

Yes. And I think this is what most tech-literate people fail to understand. The issue is scale.

It takes a lot of effort to find the right clip, cut it to remove its context, and even more effort to doctor a clip. Yes, you're still facing Brandolini's law[1], you can see that with the amount of effort Captain Disillusion[2] put in his videos to debunk crap.

But AI makes it 100× times worse. First, generating a convincing entirely video only takes a little bit of prompting, and waiting, no skill is required. Second, you can do that on a massive scale. You can easily make 2 AI videos a day. If you want to doctor videos "the old way", you'll need a team of VFX artists to do it at this scale.

I genuinely think that tech-literate folks, like myself and other hackernews posters, don't understand that significantly lowering the barrier to entry to X doesn't make X equivalent to what it was before. Scale changes everything.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini%27s_law

[2] https://www.youtube.com/CaptainDisillusion

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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post #347
post #331

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I’m really hoping that we’re about to see an explosion in critical thinking and skepticism as a response to generative AI. Any day now… right?

One can hope!

Yeah, one can. But then I see people just accepting the weak google search AI summary as plain facts and my hope fades away.

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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post #223

I'm not really replying to the article, just going tangentially from the "dead internet theory" topic, but I was thinking about when we might see the equivalent for roads: the dead road theory. In X amount of time a significant majority of road traffic will be bots in the drivers seat (figuratively), and a majority of said traffic won't even have a human on-board. It will be deliveries of goods and food. I look forwa…

Not a dystopia for me. I’m a cyclist that’s been hit by 3 cars. I believe we will look back at the time when we allowed emotional and easily distracted meat bags behind the wheels of fast moving multiple ton kinetic weapons for what it is: barbarism.

You should spend some more time driving in the environments you cycle in. This will make you better at anticipating the situations that lead to you getting hit.
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