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Re: Dead Internet Theory

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Post by Ekaros »

bandrami wrote: post #292
viccis wrote: post #73

>which is not a social network, but I’m tired of arguing with people online about it I know this was a throwaway parenthetical, but I agree 100%. I don't know when the meaning of "social media" went from "internet based medium for socializing with people you know IRL" to a catchall for any online forum like reddit, but one result of this semantic shift is that it takes attention away from the fact that the former typ…

I'll come clean and say I've still never tried Discord and I feel like I must not be understanding the concept. It really looks like it's IRC but hosted by some commercial company and requiring their client to use and with extremely tenuous privacy guarantees. I figure I must be missing something because I can't understand why that's so popular when IRC is still there.

It is IRC, but with modern features and no channel splits. It also adds voice chats and video sharing. Trade off is that privacy and commercial platform. On other hand it is very much simpler to use. IRC is a mess of usability really. Discord has much better user experience for new users.

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Post by OvbiousError »

nikeee wrote: post #176

I hope that when all online content is entirely AI generated, humanity will put their phone aside and re-discover reality because we realize that the social networks have become entirely worthless.

What's more likely is that a significant number of people will start having most/all of their meaningful interactions with AI instead of with other people.

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Post by account42 »

ggm wrote: post #256
jofzar wrote: post #254

> The notorious “you are absolutely right”, which no living human ever used before, at least not that I know of > The other notorious “let me know if you want to [do that thing] or [explore this other thing]” at the end of the sentence There's a new one, "wired" I have "wired" this into X or " "wires" into y. Cortex does this and I have noticed it more and more recently. It super sticks out because who the hell ever…

You are absolutely right is something some people in some variants of English say all the time. It may grate but to me, it grates less than "correct" which is a major sign of arrogant "I decide what is right or wrong" and when I hear it, outside of a context where somebody is the arbiter or teacher, I switch off. But you're absolutely wrong about youre absolutely right. It's a bit hokey, but it's not a machine made s…

If AI generated content uses it significantly more than the average person then it is a machine signifier, even if some humans also use it.

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Post by skwee357 »

wincy wrote: post #119
skwee357 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That I'm a real human being that is stupid in English sometimes? :)

I knew it was real as soon as I read “I stared to see a pattern”, which is funny now I find weird little non spellcheck mistakes endearing since they stamp “oh this is an actual human” on the work

Ha! Despite the fact that I tend to proof read my posts before publishing, right after publishing, and sometimes re-reading them few months after publishing, I still tend to not notice some obvious typos. Kinda makes you feel appreciation for the profession of editors and spell checkers. (And yes, I use LanguageTools in neovim, but I refuse to feed my articles to LLMs).

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Post by theteapot »

ycombinator_acc wrote: post #308
theteapot wrote: post #255

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I'm noticing more of these race baiting comments on YC too lately. AI?

No, that’s a common cope. Not AI. Not bots. Not Indians or Pakistanis. Not Kremlin or Hasbara agents. All the above might comprise a small percentage of it, but the vast majority of the rage bait and rage bait support we’ve seen over the past year+ on the Internet (including here) is just westerners being (allowed and encouraged by each other to be) racist toward non-whites in various ways.

How's your day been?

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Post by nottorp »

Ekaros wrote: post #369
dartharva wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd say WhatsApp is a better example

WhatsApp really feels to me more like group chat. Not really breaking barrier of social media. But then again I am not in any mass chats. Discord is many things. Private chat groups, medium communities and then larger communities with tens of thousands of users.

> WhatsApp really feels to me more like group chat.

So what's wrong with that?

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Post by Nevermark »

nicbou wrote: post #321
fallinditch wrote: post #211

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A giveaway for detecting AI-generated text is the use of em-dashes, as noted in op - you are caught bang to rights!

Some keyboards and operating systems — iOS is one of them — convert two dashes into an emdash.

I can’t wait for my keyboard to start auto-completing “Your” with “are absolutely right!”

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Post by mr_mitm »

reddalo wrote: post #335
HaZeust wrote: post #274

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hot take, but a character that demands zero-space between the letters at the end and the beginning of 2 words - that ISN'T a hyphenated compound - is NOT nice typography. I don't care how prevalent it is, or once was.

I don't know if my language grammar rules (Italian) are different than English, but I've always seen spaces before and after em-dashes. I don't like the em-dash being stuck to two unrelated words.

It's a US thing

Re: Dead Internet Theory

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Post by InsideOutSanta »

quantummagic wrote: post #201
seiferteric wrote: post #116

My parents were tricked the other day by a fake youtube video of "racist cop" doing something bad and getting outraged by it. I watch part of the video and even though it felt off I couldn't immediately tell for sure if it was fake or not. Nevertheless I googled the names and details and found nothing but repostings of the video. Then I looked at the youtube channel info and there it said it uses AI for "some" of the…

As they say, the demand for racism far outstrips the supply. It's hard to spend all day outraged if you rely on reality to supply enough fodder.

This is not the right thing to take away from this. This isn't about one group of people wanting to be angry. It's about creating engagement (for corporations) and creating division in general (for entities intent on harming liberal societies).

In fact, your comment is part of the problem. You are one of the people who want to be outraged. In your case, outraged at people who think racism is a problem. So you attack one group of people, not realizing that you are making the issue worse by further escalating and blaming actual people, rather than realizing that the problem is systemic.

We have social networks like Facebook that require people to be angry, because anger generates engagement, and engagement generates views, and views generate ad impressions. We have outside actors who benefit from division, so they also fuel that fire by creating bot accounts that post inciting content. This has nothing to do with racism or people on one side. One second, these outside actors post a fake incident of a racist cop to fire up one side, and the next, they post a fake incident about schools with litter boxes for kids who identify as pets to fire up the other side.

Until you realize that this is the root of the problem, that the whole system is built to make people angry at each other, you are only contributing to the anger and division.

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