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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by a-french-anon »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #224
Choco31415 wrote: post #48

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Here’s the multi core Geekbench progression: M1: 8350 M2: 9700 M3: 11650 M4: 14600 M5: 16650 (estimated) This is assuming an 8% uplift as mentioned. Also nice.

I wish we could get something other than Geekbench for these things, since Geekbench seems to be trash. For example, it has the Ryzen 7 7700X with a higher multi-core score than the Epyc 9534 even though they're both Zen4 and the latter has 8 times as many cores and is significantly faster on threaded workloads in real life.

Yeah, a simple SPECint or builtin Python benchmarks would be way more interesting that a proprietary "benchmark" with mystery tasks.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by thenthenthen »

71bw wrote: post #375
biinjo wrote: post #346

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Care to elaborate on this? I get that iOS is a closed system but I’ve never felt limited by Apple in what I can do with my Macbook.

There is no decent option on an alternative operating system. I do not like macOS and its many quirks, especially its extremely gatekept nature, including the system being SURE that what IT wants is the best for me; I understand that this might be an approach that some people prefer, but in my case it's the equivalent of showing a bull a red cloth. I will say this - and most will not like this - that I'd go out and b…

Why not virtualise (?) with Parallels? Runs like a beast (M1 mba).

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by noname120 »

fouc wrote: post #328
pylotlight wrote: post #241

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I dunno, working with M1 daily I struggle with resource contention and slow py/js builds. I'd love something faster when work provides me with updated device.

you could try moving your dev environment & docker into a linux VM.. could do something similar to this: https://medium.com/carvago-development/my-docker-on-macos-pa... I mention this because I'm guessing you might be using Desktop Docker which is kinda slow.

Or maybe just switch to OrbStack: https://orbstack.dev/

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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dylan604 wrote: post #9
aspenmayer wrote: post #3

Related, but not yet posted to HN that I know of: Leaked unboxing video reveals unannounced M5 iPad Pro in full - https://9to5mac.com/2025/09/30/leaked-unboxing-video-reveals... https://x.com/markgurman/status/1973048229932507518 | https://xcancel.com/markgurman/status/1973048229932507518 Exclusive! Unboxing the iPad Pro with the M5 before Apple! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzkC2q-iGI

> Exclusive! Unboxing the iPad Pro with the M5 before Apple! Big boy is bitching about a meager 10% increase in CPU and 30% increase in GPU as a nothing burger. "Who would upgrade from M4 to M5?" exactly. The difference is when you upgrade from older to latest. Most people do not upgrade annually. I'm looking to replace my 6th gen tablet, but now I might just get an m4 after the m5 is official and get a nice discount…

The second video posted shows what looks like a Chinese style charger.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by thyristan »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #351
wtallis wrote: post #294

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There's real value in having a multi-threaded benchmark that doesn't ignore Amdahl's Law and pretend that everything is embarrassingly parallel.

That's what the single thread score is supposed to be for. The multi-thread score is supposed to tell you how the thing performs on the many real workloads that are embarrassingly parallel. Suppose I'm trying to decide whether to buy a 32-core system with a lower base clock or a 24-core system with a higher base clock. What good is it to tell me that both of them are the same speed as the 8-core system because they h…

The only valid benchmark for that is to use the application you intend to use as a benchmark. Even embarassingly parallel problems can have different characteristics depending on their use of memory and caches and the thermal characteristics of the CPU. Something that uses only L1 cache and registers will probably scale almost linearly in the number of cores, except for thermal influences. Something that uses L2, L3 caches or even main memory will be sublinear.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by hyper_frog »

remix2000 wrote: post #50
matdehaast wrote: post #8

It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

Depends how you frame it; in my eyes, I'd be paying $1.4k USD after sales tax (at least here in the EU) for a laptop with measly 16 gigs of RAM… I could buy two normal laptops to outperform that for a price of one!

Is there a laptop that can outperform a macbook M4? Genuine question.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by littlecranky67 »

mrheosuper wrote: post #300
matdehaast wrote: post #8

It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

>$800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals Not at all, you are stuck with a machine that has only 256GB of ssd(and not upgradeable) and 60hz LCD screen, also only 2 IO ports. the M4 maybe the best mobile CPU, but that does not mean it will make every machine with it the best.

As an owner of an Macbook Pro M4 I am actually looking to sell and downgrade to the Air - because during my day-to-day developing I can't get close to utilizing the M4. Regarding the limitations: 256GB is enough for me, because 95% of the time I use my Macbook docked into my Thunderbolt dock, where I have an external drive (also for Timemachine backups) so plenty of space for big files that I rarely use of can do without on the go. That also solves the limitation of I/O ports, because the Dock brings plenty of USB ports (plus the ones from my screens which are connected to the Dock).

Not sure why 60Hz is a limitation, I've been on 60Hz for 20 years+, outside of gaming I do not see any value in going higher.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by littlecranky67 »

robbinb wrote: post #136
bhouston wrote: post #17

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I use a MacBook Air 15" has my full stack main development machine. It is just light and portable on the go. At home I just plug it into a docking station with 10 GigE and output to a 48" OLED monitor - a beautiful setup.

just curious what brand etc monitor and docking station you're using here.

Not the OP, but I use my Macbook Pro M4 with a 5-year old Dell TB19 Thunderbolt dock (not the usb-c one!). I have 2x 1080p screens aged 10+years connected to the dock, and I use the Macbook as 3rd display and the keyboard of the laptop as my daily driver. I've used the very same setup with my 2019 MBP so I assume the M4 Air can handle it too.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by littlecranky67 »

criddell wrote: post #130
remix2000 wrote: post #50

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Depends how you frame it; in my eyes, I'd be paying $1.4k USD after sales tax (at least here in the EU) for a laptop with measly 16 gigs of RAM… I could buy two normal laptops to outperform that for a price of one!

If you use the $1.4k USD laptop for 2 years, that works out to around $2 / day. If it’s a Mac, it probably has some resale value at the end of the time bringing the cost down closer to $1 / day. For a work machine, that’s pretty easy to justify.

I buy Macbooks with Applecare as a self-employed contractor (so no VAT and expense is tax deductible). I sell it after 2-3 years (before apple care expires!) on ebay and you would actually make a profit if I would not tax-declare it. What I personally do not do, as that would be tax evasion. But I've heard of people who don't do that and basically use Macbooks for free/with a profit. Especially since Germany changed the write-off period from 3 years to 12 month recently.
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