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Tell me: how do you define “actual” genocide when the goalposts keep moving and the top courts responsible for prosecuting genocide keep getting ignored and (in the case of ICC) sanctioned? At this point, anyone with even an ounce of awareness & empathy should realize that international law is dead until further notice.
Good question, but also, study some history. This did not start in 1948, nor in that century even.
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I don't read it that way, FWIW. I think some of you are overly focusing on the title instead of the overall effect of the moderator interventions here, which is that the article gets more attention and the story more coverage. In that sense, I'd think it would be in you guys' interest to take yes for an answer, much as zzzeek has here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43657317 .
I am not sure that linking to one post that agrees with your decision to provide your own title for the article (in contradiction to one of HN’s core rules no less) in order to intentionally steer discussion away from the subject of the article is that compelling of a way to convince people that your editorial decision here was correct. It certainly does nothing to address a valid concern about the precedent that thi…
There's no contradiction. The rule is "Please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait."
Nor is there any attempt to steer discussion away from the subject of the article. That would have been a hapless attempt, had it existed, since the thread is filled with such discussion.
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Was apartheid South Africa not an ethnostate then? Was the US south during slavery not an ethnostate? I almost wonder if your comment itself is Israeli propaganda.
Both comments that you posted to this thread so far have broken the site guidelines. Can you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stop doing that? You're welcome to make your substantive points thoughtfully, but it's not ok to attack others (for example). This is really important, because the impact of doing this evokes worse from others in a fruit-of-the-poisoned-tree sort of way. It's…
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Both of these things can be true.
Sure the burden _should_ be high in both directions. But the journalists seem to be doing a decent job of announcing and describing the data they have, and confirming it with multiple sources within Meta. They're engaged in a seemingly earnest and forthright effort to make the case. And to the degree that it's limited, it seems those limits are due to Meta itself. Meta, on the other hand, excepting these whistleblowe…
In terms of the implied proposition that israel is intentionally using the take down process to shield itself from criticism. I just dont think the evidence in the article supports that proposition. I would expect the stuff mentioned in the article to happen both in the case Israel is trying to get criticism taken down and in the case Israel is only interested in having "kill 'em all" type posts taken down. So i don't find the article very compelling.
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#385So when the government pointed to the disproportionate support for Palestine on TikTok vs Instagram, it was actually because Instagram was suppressing it. It is ironic. https://x.com/hawleymo/status/1717505662601609401
While this may be part of the story, it's certainly not the full picture. We know that the CCP is actively manipulating the algorithm on Tiktok to further their agenda on multiple other geopolitical issues—something we have ample evidence for. I don't know if there is a smoking gun on this one topic in particular, but the CCP's goal has always been to divide the American audience; and we know that older Americans ske…
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Another reason why TikTok has to come under US ownership. How else are we going to censor things when they are under China’s (lack of) control?
Exactly. China demands Apple Maps be ran on Chinese servers by Chinese workers. I would expect current U.S. administration to be frustrated with these imbalances as surveillance state measures increase. These imbalances were less important when there was less interest in information and truth suppression.
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#387The missing part of this article: are the requests valid? Are they actually incitements to terrorism and violence or is it just a clamp down on criticism? The headline of the article implies the latter but the body does not provide any evidence for that. Like there is a war going on, a pretty nasty one at that. I would expect there to be quite a lot of incitement to violence related to that. I would expect the israel…
What would you define as “valid”
Generally though i do think its legit for facebook to take down posts advocating for violence and terrorism. Devil is in the details.
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Btw there's a lot more information about the moderation on this post here, if you or anyone want to read about that: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43657264 .
It's unfortunate that turning off flags for a story empowers the people who want to use this site for ideological battle. "dang made an exception once for , so the guidelines forever more don't apply to it!" There were several variants of this sentiment expressed on the tomhow welcome thread.
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> Israel is such a bitch. You can't post like this here, no matter how right you are or you feel you are. It just makes everything worse, and you owe this community better if you're participating in it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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#390I'd like to see examples of actual posts that were taken down, rather than talk of the quantity, or who filed the reports.