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Re: AI 2027

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Post by Philpax »

arduanika wrote: post #206
MaxfordAndSons wrote: post #92

As someone who's fairly ignorant of how AI actually works at a low level, I feel incapable of assessing how realistic any of these projections are. But the "bad ending" was certainly chilling. That said, this snippet from the bad ending nearly made me spit my coffee out laughing: > There are even bioengineered human-like creatures (to humans what corgis are to wolves) sitting in office-like environments all day viewi…

Sigh. When you talk to these people their eugenics obsession always comes out eventually. Set a timer and wait for it.

While I don't disagree that I've seen a lot of eugenics talk from rationalist(-adjacent)s, I don't think this is an example of it: this is describing how misaligned AI could technically keep humans alive while still killing "humanity."

Re: AI 2027

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yapyap wrote: post #298

Stopped reading after > We predict that the impact of superhuman AI over the next decade will be enormous, exceeding that of the Industrial Revolution. Get out of here, you will never exceed the Industrial Revolution. AI is a cool thing but it’s not a revolution thing. That sentence alone + the context of the entire website being AI centered shows these are just some AI boosters. Lame.

Machines being able to outthink and outproduce humanity wouldn't be more impactful than the Industrial Revolution? Are you sure?

You don't have to agree with the timeline - it seems quite optimistic to me - but it's not wrong about the implications of full automation.

Re: AI 2027

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Post by Philpax »

827a wrote: post #91

Readers should, charitably, interpret this as "the sequence of events which need to happen in order for OpenAI to justify the inflow of capital necessary to survive". Your daily vibe coding challenge: Get GPT-4o to output functional code which uses Google Vertex AI to generate a text embedding. If they can solve that one by July, then maybe we're on track for "curing all disease and aging, brain uploading, and coloni…

Haven't tested this (cbf setting up Google Cloud), but the output looks consistent with the docs it cites: https://chatgpt.com/share/67efd449-ce34-8003-bd37-9ec688a11b...

You may consider using search to be cheating, but we do it, so why shouldn't LLMs?

Re: AI 2027

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Post by bsenftner »

brookst wrote: post #368
bsenftner wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever the future is, it is not American, not the United States. The US's cultural individualism has been Capitalistically weaponized, and the educational foundation to take the country forward is not there. The US is kaput, and we are merely observing the ugly demise. The future is Asia, with all of western culture going down. Yes, it is not pretty, The failed experiment of American self rule.

I agree but see it as less dire. All of western culture is not ending; it will be absorbed into a more Asia-dominated culture in much he was Asian culture was subsumed into western for the past couple of hundred years. And if Asian culture is better educated and more capable of progress, that’s a good thing. Certainly the US has announced loud and clear that this is the end of the line for us.

Of course it will not end, western culture just will no longer lead. Despite the sky falling perspective of many, it is simply an attitude adjustment. So one group is no longer #1, and the idea that I was part of that group, ever, was an illusion of propaganda anyway. Life will go on, surprisingly the same.

Re: AI 2027

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Post by kelsey978126 »

stego-tech wrote: post #279

It’s good science fiction, I’ll give it that. I think getting lost in the weeds over technicalities ignores the crux of the narrative: even if this doesn’t lead to AGI, at the very least it’s likely the final “warning shot” we’ll get before it’s suddenly and irreversibly here. The problems it raises - alignment, geopolitics, lack of societal safeguards - are all real, and happening now (just replace “AGI” with “corpo…

bingo. many don't realize superintelligence exists today already, in the form of human super intelligence. artificial super intelligence is already here too, but just as hybrid human machine workloads. Fully automated super intelligence is no different from a corporation, a nation state, a religion. When does it count as ASI? when the chief executive is an AI? Or when they use AI to make decisions? Does it need to be at the board level? We are already here, all this changes is what labor humans will do and how they do it, not the amount.

Re: AI 2027

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Post by braebo »

wruza wrote: post #336
jrvarela56 wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/07/30/meditations-on-moloch/

Thanks for the read. One could think that the answer is to simply stop being a part of it, but then again you're from the genus that outcompeted everyone else in staying alive. Nature is such a shitty joke by design, not sure how one is supposed to look at the hypothetical designer with warmth in their heart.

Fleshy meat sacks on a space rock eating one another alive and shitting them out on a march towards inevitable doom in the form of a (likely) painful and terrifying death is a genius design, no?

Re: AI 2027

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Post by skywhopper »

Aurornis wrote: post #210
torginus wrote: post #143

Much has been made in its article about autonomous agents ability to do research via browsing the web - the web is 90% garbage by weight (including articles on certain specialist topics). And it shows. When I used GPT's deep research to research the topic, it generated a shallow and largely incorrect summary of the issue, owning mostly to its inability to find quality material, instead it ended up going for places li…

This story isn’t really about agents browsing the web. It’s a fiction about a company that consumes all of the web and all other written material into a model that doesn’t need to browse the web. The agents in this story supersede the web. But your point hits on one of the first cracks to show in this story: We already have companies consuming much of the web and training models on all of our books, but the reports t…

That’s exactly why it doesn’t make sense. Where would a datacenter-bound AI get more data about the world exactly?

The story is actually quite poorly written, with weird stuff about “oh yeah btw we fixed hallucinations” showing up off-handedly halfway through. And another example of that is the bit where they throw in that one generation is producing scads of synthetic training data for the next gen system.

Okay, but once you know everything there is to know based on written material, how do you learn new things about the world? How do you learn how to build insect drones, mass-casualty biological weapons, etc? Is the super AI supposed to have completely understood physics to the extent that it can infer all reality without having to do experimentation? Where does even the electricity to do this come from? Much less the physical materials.

The idea that even a supergenius intelligence could drive that much physical change in the world within three years is just silly.

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