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Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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My 3rd Gen Toyota 4Runner is old enough to drink and outside of routine maintenance requires almost no thought. "It's time to get a new car" given that car safety has drastically improved and I have two younger kids in that thing a few times a week but I'm honestly having a really hard time giving it up, something so reliable and plainly functional. New cars with all their computers and smart technology only look lik…

There's one thing about "newer" cars (mine's a 2014) that older cars don't tend to have, and that's the ability to make the car beep remotely. That is insanely valuable in large parking lots.

Bluetooth stereo: that, you could install after-market.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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my 2001 honda accord stared getting on (took a few too many hits) - i installed a very good after market system in it - with hefty subs/amps. the replacement 2013 accord euro...absolutely impractical to do the same DIY...the dash computer integrated console with A/C controls is a nightmare to replace with fascia which has space for double DIN... i wonder if i should downgrade again to a classic Honda integra, or pre-…

Don't buy an old integra or a civic unless you like dealing with regular car theft.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Note that these stats only account for reliability in the first three years: > Then the brand reliability score was calculated by averaging results from 2021 to 2023. As someone who usually buys ~10 year old cars and drives them into the ground I'm much more interested in long term reliability. It may correlate but these stats are not that!

The article title is "most reliable new cars," so it's fair advertising of what it is.

Most reliable old cars would certainly be a good read though.

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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What the hell happened to Mercedes? 29th out of 30 on the list. Truly awful. I've never driven one (let alone owned one) but by the marketing (and price) you'd think it was the greatest vehicle on earth.

It's well-known that the better a manufacturer's Formula 1 racecars do, the worse their road cars. And Mercedes were the dominant team from 2014 to 2020.

"Well-known?" The top F1 team is manufactured by Honda and Honda is near the top of this Consumer Reports lists...

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I'd like to hurt people worse if I hit them with my car" is a strange and brutal take.

Absolutely right. Sorry, that wasn't my intention. I misread the comment.

you're very kind for apologizing

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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My 3rd Gen Toyota 4Runner is old enough to drink and outside of routine maintenance requires almost no thought. "It's time to get a new car" given that car safety has drastically improved and I have two younger kids in that thing a few times a week but I'm honestly having a really hard time giving it up, something so reliable and plainly functional. New cars with all their computers and smart technology only look lik…

it's an inanimate car that is dispensable. your family's life is not. there is a DRASTIC difference in safety and survivability of newer cars. I would switch over yesterday

Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Edit: While I'm still dubious about these metrics I was ranting about an entirely different company here. Sorry. A very similar report has been making the rounds recently from JD Power, probably part of a marketing campaign of some sort. The JD Power list is even more hilarious because it is book-ended by two brands: Dodge and Chrysler. Also it suggests Alfa Romeo for reliability. https://www.cars.com/articles/2023-j-d-power-initial-quality...

This is just "initial quality" which has always been a bullshit metric invented by JD Power to sound good in automaker advertising.

The way it works is for the first 90 days of ownership every problem that bothers the owner counts as one point. So expensive cars that cater to fussy people score poorly compared to cars bought by people who only care about reliability and getting from point a to point b and don't pay attention to their car. Also, there is no weighting to the issues.

So you might have a situation like:

    CR: So what problems did you find in the first three months of owning this expensive luxury car?
    
    Owner: The glovebox latch is too loud and the heated seats heat up from the back first instead of the front first like I prefer and the power mirrors adjust too quickly.  

    CR: Ok, that's three points. 

    CR: Next person, what problems did you have?

    Owner:  Well, the rear wheel fell off after about 50 miles and after I owned it a couple of months it burst into flame on the highway.

    CR: I'll mark that as two points.
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