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Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by rmbyrro »

palata wrote: post #262
rmbyrro wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the history of China and its tech companies, the burden of proof shifted to their shoulders. So, I turn to them: is there anything that proves its a surveillance-free device? No, they cannot assure that. Someone may not like it, but China now has a very, very bad reputation among people in the West. Especially after the last pandemic and how they handled it.

> So, I turn to them: is there anything that proves its a surveillance-free device? No, they cannot assure that. Can Google and Apple prove that their stuff is surveillance-free, though?

No, but US reputation is way better than China's.

In the absence of a surveillance-free device, people prefer the one with the better rep.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by nhumrich »

grecy wrote: post #152
ben7799 wrote: post #22

I've had the original Mini since it came out. Other than damaging a prop from it hitting a blade of grass on landing it is in perfect shape. Yes, they are so fragile I landed very smoothly in the grass and soft grass is enough to damage the props! I don't fly it as much as I used to. These new ones are certainly an engineering marvel with how much they have added and still kept it under 249g. The big one to me though…

I've got the original Mini too, and I had never encountered this before until very recently when I tried to fly it in the US. What happens if you turn off your cellular data (or are simply out of reception) ? Does it let you fly it anywhere then? In Australia and the Canadian Arctic I basically never had reception, and it never cared once.

I fly on a cell phone without a SIM card. Basically, if you haven't logged-in in the last 30 days, your flights are limited quite a lot. You can only fly so far (100ft?), and so high. I just make sure to log in and get all firmware/map updates over WiFi before I leave on trips and have been fine.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by rmbyrro »

PeterStuer wrote: post #291
rmbyrro wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the history of China and its tech companies, the burden of proof shifted to their shoulders. So, I turn to them: is there anything that proves its a surveillance-free device? No, they cannot assure that. Someone may not like it, but China now has a very, very bad reputation among people in the West. Especially after the last pandemic and how they handled it.

Replace 'China' with 'USA' in your post, and for most of the world both would be identically true.

The thing is: a lot of people want to live in the US. That's not true for China.

Have you ever been to China and the US?

You may think they're equally awful, but a LOT of people disagree.

China's reputation is in really bad shape among people in the West. Despite also being under surveillance, that's why many prefer American or European tech.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by Eumenes »

brentm wrote: post #74

I always look at these and think I want one but also can't think of what i'd actually use it for. I just picture it sitting in a closet next to my GoPro and Oculus after about 3 days of messing around. Anyone own one? What do you use it for?

Same and everytime I see someone using one, its generally hiking or in a nature area, and its really annoying

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by [deleted] »

PeterStuer wrote: post #294
corbezzoli wrote: post #240

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What concrete claim are you looking for? Is it not enough that Huawei was banned by the US? Do you know the reason why it was banned? The same reason could broadly apply to every Chinese company. TikTok is the software counterpart that isn’t allowed on any government phone. DJI does not produce infrastructure pieces so it hasn’t reached the same urgency to the US, so it’s still allowed.

Huawei was starting to be a serious player in 5G, and their handsets were eating Apple's lunch. US understandably wants their spyware in the world's infra. The rest of the planet might not see it that black and white.

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Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by rofrol »

stef25 wrote: post #374
severus_snape wrote: post #333

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Both fronts use DJI drones[0][1], although DJI suspended its activities in both Russia and Ukraine as of April 26, 2022[2] and contractually forbids[3] any sales by dealers to either country and for combat use. However, other actors are entering the war business, like Parrot[4]. [0]: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NtgseODXGSAomx6G5Efw... [1]: https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/16/ukraine-russia-war-dron... [2…

Not so long ago there was a post / comment here that said Ukraine's going through around 10K DJI drones per month

Link?

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by capableweb »

prmoustache wrote: post #322
GenerocUsername wrote: post #83

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I've had a Mini V1 since 2020 and here are my uses: * Fun Flights * Aerial photography of yard projects * Towing fishing lures way beyond furthest castable distance * Fireworks videos * Hiking Scouting * Surveillance drone ( Caught some motorbikers trespassing on property and tracked them back to house ) * Firewatch * Pester folks safely from patio

I am pretty sure you broke some laws in the process.

How fun would life be if you didn't break some laws sometimes?

Only two rules:

A) don't be mean to or hurt others (humans or animals)

B) only commit one crime at a time

Following these rules, even lawbreaking can be made into a fun past time without losing out morally :)

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by rsynnott »

hackernewds wrote: post #249
cjbgkagh wrote: post #235

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I wonder if killing their dumber commanders might inadvertently be helping them…

what a strange argument to make

I mean, I assume it's mostly a joke, but if you assume that their system of selecting high officers isn't merit-based (which you would tend to assume given that it is Putin's Russia) then assassination which preferentially kills off the more incompetent officers would indeed be beneficial to the military as a whole.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by HumblyTossed »

FpUser wrote: post #220
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #178

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That’s almost exactly what my friend says. He has this tiny little quad, about half the size of the DJI, that does about 90. He has pretty fancy video gear. He uses a VR-style headset. It’s pretty cool.

Ask him how long it can fly at 90. Few minutes at most.

Why does that matter? Top Fuel dragsters are designed for a quarter mile, you wouldn't use them for a 400 mile round-round.

Different things have different purposes.

Re: DJI Mini 4 Pro

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Post by geon »

ben7799 wrote: post #22

I've had the original Mini since it came out. Other than damaging a prop from it hitting a blade of grass on landing it is in perfect shape. Yes, they are so fragile I landed very smoothly in the grass and soft grass is enough to damage the props! I don't fly it as much as I used to. These new ones are certainly an engineering marvel with how much they have added and still kept it under 249g. The big one to me though…

I have a race drone. It was fun to fly it through tall grass like a weed whacker.

The first few props were super brittle and shattered at the slightest botched landing. I also think they were poorly designed with no fillets, so the stresses would concentrate at the base of the blades and the plastic would crack.

A bought another couple of bags of props, and they were MUCH higher quality. Often I can just bend a blade back after a rough crash landing.

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