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Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by MichaelZuo »

BlandDuck wrote: post #365
lynx23 wrote: post #91

Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

It's unbelievable that Apple hasn't been able to do better. My 'favorite' Siri 'feature' is when I ask for directions to 'home' it gives me directions to the local Home Depot.... really??? EDIT: After thinking about this for a while, the reason this irks me is that 'directions to home' is one of the most basic asks. I am not asking Siri to play some obscure unreleased track from an underground British punk band. I am…

It's odd that Siri was better under Eddy Cue, for some reason, even though he is mainly the content guy, then under Craig Federighi or the AI/ML experts like John Giannandrea.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by SilverBirch »

kaicianflone wrote: post #377
srg0 wrote: post #376

There is one killer application for voice assistants: answering phone calls. I wish Siri could respond to all unknown phone numbers, screen promotional and robocalls, take notes if necessary and report what's important to me (and I need to be able to tell her what's NOT important). This is what the assistants should do, not switching lights or trying to play a random song. Neither Siri nor its competition can do this…

I remember Google showing this kind of tech off a year or two at their dev conference. Was it just vaporware with a person in the back using a synthesized voice? We’re waiting google

Google's demonstration was kinda "Hey! We've got this great feature where our personal assistant will piss off everyone you interact with in order to save you 10 seconds making a dinner reservation". I'm not surprised it went no where.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by valine »

qwertox wrote: post #356
trinix912 wrote: post #301

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> With ChatGPT it is now feeling like Siri the broken tricycle is being compared to a Lamborghini. Just wait a bit. “Hey Siri call X” -“As an AI language learning model, I cannot know X from your contacts”

I know you say it as a joke, but the contact list could be a part of the hidden prompt, at least the names, so that it could then trigger an action with the proper name, which iOS would then understand.

Ideally the model would insert an API call into its output to fetch the contacts first, then make the call.

The scary part is asking the LLM to read your messages. Imagine someone texts you an LLM jailbreak. Siri might not be Siri anymore after it finishes reading.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by wincy »

hashtag-til wrote: post #373
BlandDuck wrote: post #365

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It's unbelievable that Apple hasn't been able to do better. My 'favorite' Siri 'feature' is when I ask for directions to 'home' it gives me directions to the local Home Depot.... really??? EDIT: After thinking about this for a while, the reason this irks me is that 'directions to home' is one of the most basic asks. I am not asking Siri to play some obscure unreleased track from an underground British punk band. I am…

Or when it unexpectedly decides to "call" someone when I asked it to play some song while I'm driving. I'm mindful my English pronunciation is not 100% accurate, but Alexa gives me no problem at all.

I speak midwestern American English and it’s been constantly trying to text the wrong person, which is weird because a year ago ON THE SAME PHONE this never ever happened. If it’s not working for me it’s definitely a degradation. Siri had worked reliably for me for literally a decade!

I’ve also noticed my autocorrect has gone bonkers. It’s constantly trying to change the case of the word “guess” into “Guess”, the brand I guess? Despite me never ever having shopped or mentioned this. The autocorrect has gotten very aggressive and I type so fast that it’ll take me three or four tries to get it to revert to lower case. It also has some weird context sensitivity to proper nouns they added so if I say “I guess James can come over” it’ll change that to “Guess James” like it’s a name (in iMessage only I suppose) and I have to delete that entire “name” and carefully retype!

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by cj »

I have a homepod in every room in my house. I talk to Siri every day.

He (she's set to an Australian male voice) is great if you know exactly what to say to get exactly what you want. He's horrible with general requests that you haven't made before.

Particularly with smart home devices.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by canadianfella »

blululu wrote: post #374
Polyphonie wrote: post #360

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You can easily add fuck into your dictionary: Settings>General>Keyboard >Text Replacement.

This is useful advice but, the frustration is warranted if a user needs to modify a sub-sub-sub menu to undo a default that is not even grammatically correct.

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Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by wincy »

Dalewyn wrote: post #294
voytec wrote: post #279

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> The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Input recognition quality falling all over the place - it's very much noticeable with their onscreen keyboards as well. Some "intelligent" mechanisms know better which button I tried to tap and I'm getting gibberish even with auto-correct off. It's the same on iPhone and Watch. Apple has already forced me to re-learn keyboards once - with th…

The keyboards on the Apple M Macbooks are good, having used one myself... Except there's this feeling that Macbook keyboards fundamentally "work" differently to all other keyboards out there. I'm primarily a Windows wizard, I use my Macbook for specific tasks and it's not my daily driver. I can type on my Macbook mostly fine, but occasionally it misses some of my key inputs. I know the keyboard works , the key in que…

That’s interesting because I use the same keyboard with my Mac and Windows work laptop hooked up to a dock, and Windows + Teams (where I’m doing the majority of my actual typing words not code in a day) constantly has weird artifacts of switching lettering, like it’s kicking off some async process to grab keystrokes right as I open a message then flushes the buffer out of order to the application. It’s really weird and I thought it was user error at first but I’ve noticed this never happens on my Mac.

Then again Teams specifically is just kind of the worst. At least they finally added the full range of emoji reacts to messages. (Still doesn’t beat Slacks custom emojis but oh well).

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by brookst »

TexanFeller wrote: post #380
MrGilbert wrote: post #340

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You can, but it's not really endorsed by Apple. As such, some folks don't even know about that. Personally, I like to use SwiftKey. //Edit: Would really like to know for what I got down voted for?

It's completely supported, you can get keyboard replacements on the app store. It's just less secure to use them than the one built into the OS because the third party keyboards might run input through some web service instead of keeping it completely local.

There is a default-off toggle for whether to allow a keyboard to use the network, but of course it's so much more useful enabled that I expect everyone enables it.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by kayodelycaon »

Dalewyn wrote: post #294
voytec wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Input recognition quality falling all over the place - it's very much noticeable with their onscreen keyboards as well. Some "intelligent" mechanisms know better which button I tried to tap and I'm getting gibberish even with auto-correct off. It's the same on iPhone and Watch. Apple has already forced me to re-learn keyboards once - with th…

The keyboards on the Apple M Macbooks are good, having used one myself... Except there's this feeling that Macbook keyboards fundamentally "work" differently to all other keyboards out there. I'm primarily a Windows wizard, I use my Macbook for specific tasks and it's not my daily driver. I can type on my Macbook mostly fine, but occasionally it misses some of my key inputs. I know the keyboard works , the key in que…

I have this issue using some keyboards. I think it has to do with key spacing and pressure required. You could be missing the key by hitting the edge of it.

The butterfly keyboard from previous Apple laptop generations is absolute trash. Every time it takes me a few minutes to get used to it.

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