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Re: Divorce does funny things

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The increasing percentage of non-divorcing marriages might be self-selecting in a sense since it is now socially acceptable to never get married, so we miss out on ‘breakups’ that are long/medium term. (E.g. non-married couples sleeping together for 5 years and having no children and then having a horrible breakup is more likely today than 100 years ago, and they are lost in the divorce statistic).

The topic is the financial problem though, so that statistic would be irrelevant. In a certain way, 5 years together and then breakup is what you should be aiming for, rather than marriage + kids and then breakup. The first one is "the test bed", the latter is a mess

I love this quote. I can't tell you how many people get married, have 2 children (it's always 2!!!) and then pretty much immediately get divorced. They think that by saying "My ex", they're respected more in society ("Oh, someone married you? You must not be that bad.") They don't understand how expensive the divorce process is and how they would have been so much better off having those 2 kids with a sperm donor/surrogate. "The first one is "the test bed", the latter is a mess." Hope you don't mind if I use that quote.

Re: Divorce does funny things

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The topic is the financial problem though, so that statistic would be irrelevant. In a certain way, 5 years together and then breakup is what you should be aiming for, rather than marriage + kids and then breakup. The first one is "the test bed", the latter is a mess

I love this quote. I can't tell you how many people get married, have 2 children (it's always 2!!!) and then pretty much immediately get divorced. They think that by saying "My ex", they're respected more in society ("Oh, someone married you? You must not be that bad.") They don't understand how expensive the divorce process is and how they would have been so much better off having those 2 kids with a sperm donor/sur…

Please do! Less kids unhappy, hopefully (I am son of divorced parents. Divorce lasted 20 years...)

Re: Divorce does funny things

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The increasing percentage of non-divorcing marriages might be self-selecting in a sense since it is now socially acceptable to never get married, so we miss out on ‘breakups’ that are long/medium term. (E.g. non-married couples sleeping together for 5 years and having no children and then having a horrible breakup is more likely today than 100 years ago, and they are lost in the divorce statistic).

Yeah but if there aren’t kids or financial assets intertwined and there wasn’t ever the expectation of “forever” it’s a very different thing.

Isn't marriage by default (law-wise) forcing an assets-split? Going back to the original state would be fine, but that's not what usually happens from my understanding

Re: Divorce does funny things

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Life insurance policies often do cover suicide. There’s usually a certain amount of time that has to pass between the start of the policy - two years in the case of my old policy. But the “life insurance not covering suicide” is no longer true.

Two years is the industry standard, and I think you can reasonably assume that all policies cover it after two years. (Before two years, all moneys paid are returned, but that's all.)

Re: Divorce does funny things

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I can say with great confidence - do not get married. Do not live in a common law state. You will very likely regret it immensely. If I had been legally married to my ex - I would’ve been raked over the coals. I could see myself being the man on that rig. She contributed nothing to our relationship (financially or emotionally) and I put her through college while she didn’t work or pay for anything. Yet, even if I sho…

Are you from the US ? I hear so many (soooo many) US men saying the same exact thing. Half of Bill Burr fame comes from marriage stories. Is it the same in every country ? relationship often bring their own madness but the US seem to have their very own kind.

ps: i'm not criticizing anybody btw, and oh I forgot, I saw people giving a lot and receiving nothing back, so I kinda get a bit of your story. It's just the habit of "give me half your money. bye." that gets to me.

Re: Divorce does funny things

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Would I be correct in guessing that you have not faced such a situation yourself? My motivation for asking -- What you wrote is advice inexperienced people commonly give. It's nothing that those facing the challenge would not already know. Having faced the challenge, I see several flaws / loose ends in your advice, and would recommend you or anyone reading the same to be watch out, and do your best to learn from the…

This idea of a challenge is all in your mind. You can choose suffering or choose to be present.

This is an incredibly patronizing statement to make, whether or not you realize it.
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