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Re: iOS 15

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Post by ShakataGaNai »

babesh wrote: post #370

iCloud Terms and Conditions include If you agree to the terms of service, they can change it at any time and not tell you if there are governmental reasons. Furthermore, you agree to not use the services for things that Apple seems unlawful, harassing, threatening, harmful, abusive, tortious, defamatory, libelous, abusive, violent, obscene, vulgar, invasive of another’s privacy, hateful, racially or ethnically offens…

The government piece is more to let you know than anything else. The government’s of the world have repeatedly demonstrated that they can get any info they want from companies and use their powers to make sure you don’t know. See also proton mail.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by samtheprogram »

zepto wrote: post #254
samtheprogram wrote: post #232

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This too, but Apple was caught a while back slowing down older phones at major version updates (their reasoning was to extend battery life / device on time). https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51413724

You sound like you think they were lying.

Personally, I don’t, but I was trying to convey a neutral stance. That said, I didn’t like their approach of secrecy and, at least seemingly and anecdotally, doing it when receiving updates rather than over time based on some metric such as battery cycle count. I find this possibly related to their anti-repair practices.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by Krasnol »

bserge wrote: post #287
Krasnol wrote: post #233

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Too bad the general public doesn't care about all that. I know people who are actually annoyed but the update notification...

That's me, I don't care. I could, and someday will, install a custom ROM, but for now, shit just works.

And you are not wrong.

You should still do the security update if you're on Android though.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by uniqueid »

DanTheManPR wrote: post #58

Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago. Nor is it reserved for their flagship models - the 2016 iPhone SE also gets the latest and greatest. Meanwhile, my flagship android phone from 2018, the Samsung Galaxy S9, is stuck on the last version of Android. At least it still gets security updates, some manufacturers don't even go that far.

  Apple continues to support OS updates on the iPhone 6s, a device released almost 6 years ago
If that benefited customers, Apple wouldn't prohibit downgrades. Allowing software that runs painfully slowly on old devices primarily benefits Apple.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by illiac786 »

hypothesis wrote: post #356
canes123456 wrote: post #329

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What? Yes, Security updates for eol devices is clearly better than doing nothing. Apple’s externally facing vulnerability management program has a bunch of issues but I don’t see how that is relevant

Better for whom? It’s EOL. Are they just plugging high-visibility issues? That’s not doing anything for individual device’s security. They need a giant INSECURE sign instead of giving that false hope for people: “they might patch me past EOL if it’s bad enough”.

Better for the users and for Apple. "less bad" is another way to put it, but it's the same result. I don't see what you're not getting: one security fix is good, even if there's 3 other huge security gaps. Makes the overall situation less bad (or "better"). You can debate about the magnitude of the improvement, but I really don't see how it can be argued there is no improvement...

Re: iOS 15

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Post by true_religion »

GeekyBear wrote: post #207
KennyBlanken wrote: post #172

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Scanning content on a gmail account is not even remotely anything like scanning my device.

Scanning content on-server means that a single false positive is sitting there, ready to be maliciously misused by any prosecutor who cares to issue a dragnet warrant. These sorts of dragnet warrants have become increasingly common. >Google says geofence warrants make up one-quarter of all US demands https://techcrunch.com/2021/08/19/google-geofence-warrants/ It's not like we haven't seen Google's on-server data hord…

While I’m generally unhappy that Google never supervises its AI moderation systems, in this case it’s a criminal matter.

Our police and prosecution ought to be enough review on its own. If our own elected government fails to do something so simple, I say fix the government. I don’t want to be forced to rely on the goodwill of a for-profit company.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by toxik »

rootusrootus wrote: post #143
nicoburns wrote: post #132

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> Invariably they go on 50% off sale within a year for the flagship models, which tanks their resale value. My strategy for my last phone was to buy the previous year's flagship for this reason.

That is a good strategy. I could have saved a good chunk of change by not insisting that I have the latest shiny.

This is a good approach to many things, computers, cars, phones — there is an enormous premium paid to be the “first to open the box”. If you can rid yourself of that particularly successful marketing trick, you cut your costs boatloads.

Re: iOS 15

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Post by nicoburns »

nicoburns wrote: post #367
beagle3 wrote: post #303

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Did it get feature updates? Security updates? FWIW, the iPhone 6S (first avail oct 2015) gets iOS 15 ; and iPhone 6 still got a security update in mid 2021 despite being out of feature support.

It got 2 years worth of feature updates (possibly 3 if it got one before I bought it). I’m actually typing this on an iPhone 6S that I usually use for app development. I’ve just upgraded it to iOS 15, and honestly it’s still a great phone. UI is very snappy. Probably the best budget phone on the market right now, considering you can get one for ~£70 (I paid £100 a year ago for one that had had it’s battery replaced)

UPDATE: It got 3 years worth of updates. Shipped with Android 6 and the latest update is 9.
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