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tip: Disable javascript to get around the paywall I'm a huge fan of what Coinbase and Basecamp have done. Coinbase is thriving and Basecamp appears to be no worse for wear. I hope we see a continuance of this trend; whereby we continue to encourage DE&I whilst keeping the worst and most toxic topics out of day to day business.
If you're going to downvote, at least provide objective reasoning for it. Otherwise it's just petty disagreement, which violates the spirit of HN.
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This is a really disingenuous false equivalency. First, you're implying that all opinions are equally valid. That is... I'll be polite and simply call it nonsense. "Gay people should have rights" and "gay people shouldn't have rights" are not opinions of equal value, and it's not "eating your cake and having it too" to say that the latter opinion is unwelcome. Second, there's a very clear relationship between the "le…
> First, you're implying that all opinions are equally valid. That is... I'll be polite and simply call it nonsense. I agree the idea opinions are all equally valid is nonsense. It's also very likely we disagree in many of our political opinions. At the end of the day we still share this society. Unless your plan of saying my opinions are "unwelcome" includes forcing me out of this society, how do you expect that to…
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This sounds like a problem found in fancy valley tier-1 unicorns then. I keep hearing stories of people bombarded with political discussions on a daily basis and can hardly believe them. I'm not doubting anyone's sincerity but jeez... I feel like this perhaps localized to certain segments of the industry. I've worked in this industry for over a decade and really haven't had any major political discussions with cowork…
This is happening because these large tech companies- not just tier-1 unicorns but FAANGs themselves, have been presenting themselves as paternalistic employers for the past decade. You provide employees with all the free food, on-campus gyms, and massages by appointment as they want, then present them with supposedly open cultures of free inquiry, your employees are going to use it. You satiate someone's lower level…
People are human. But work is work. The canonical point of a workplace is to come together to fulfill the aims of the entrepreneurs. The personal aims of the workers are fulfilled best outside of work. Just stop to think about it logically for a minute... is the workplace the best place to circulate a petition condemning something that has nothing to do with work? The workplace necessarily is going to bring together…
That may be your point of view, but can you hire a lot of people with this attitude? Companies in tech successfully attract talent on the basis that they provide an opportunity to "have impact in the world". I work in tech and I hear this all the time from candidates in interviews, when asking why do you want to work here. Nobody says they just want to make a lot of money for the shareholders and a little for themsel…
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Political opinions are not protected in the same way, nor should they be, as the protected classes you cite (gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etc).
Oh, really? I am not from the US, so I am a bit ignorant about the laws there. In France it is illegal to discriminate against an employee because of his political views. It is not allowed to ask.
Get referred through the favored group, you meet political requirements
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Oh, really? I am not from the US, so I am a bit ignorant about the laws there. In France it is illegal to discriminate against an employee because of his political views. It is not allowed to ask.
What if they have extreme political views? Are you allowed to wear KKK robes to work?
talk about white people are evil? yes
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> The point of a workplace is to come together to fulfill the aims of the entrepreneurs. The personal aims of the workers are fulfilled best outside of work. What? I can’t be the only one who works directly in order to fulfill my needs (like literally my most basic needs, think food and shelter).
That seems like a pretty uncharitable interpretation of the comment. I think what they're saying is that you should view an employment relationship as an exchange, where you get money (which can be used to fulfill your basic needs), and your employer gets your labor for a certain number of hours per week. As you are voluntarily exchanging your labor for money, it's reasonable that the focus of the workplace should be…
Employees don't need to blindly follow the pre-existing structures, rules, dynamics, and culture of their workplace 100% of the time, never attempting to modify them. It is possible to change these things, both in small and in large ways.
Sure, efforts to make large changes are probably not successful the majority of the time. But change does occur. An employer is an abstract entity composed of humans. Who else can change the nature of this entity but the humans who make it up? And small changes, while seemingly insignificant, can add up over time in a very meaningful way.
One can also vote with their feet and leave if the clash of values is large enough. This requires having other options or resources, but for those with the option, it is a powerful way of making a statement.
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It's surely a firable offense, but part of me is so tempted to give a dark-skin-tone thumbs up in Slack as a white guy.
I've seen it happen - I'm just curious why? Don't think it's fireable or anything, just... weird.