Live data from Hacker News

How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only unions in the industry

kqed.org

381–383 of 383 posts

Re: How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only unions in the industry

#381
post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because we don't have the same costs as in the US (university, healthcare, housing, ...). For instance, the cost to attend courses in a good university in Belgium is at most 835 euro/year [0]. (This does not include textbooks) In the EU, the market is much more fragmented because of the many languages we speak. [0] https://uclouvain.be/en/study/inscriptions/tuition-fees.html

Because we don't have the same costs as in the US Well, if you live in Vancouver you'll pay just as much as SF for housing, maybe half for university and I'll give you healthcare costs are minimal. But salaries are maybe 60% of SF. So I don't think it's that.

What university in the Bay Area costs only twice as much as SFU/UBC?

Re: How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only unions in the industry

#382
post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> Are unions in the US really like that, or is it a one-off being used to spread fud? > Yes, they are. I've been working a booth at a convention showing off some tech and asked a passing worker for an extension cord. The response was that they asked on the radio, but the only person available to perform this role was on lunch so it'd be at least 45 minutes until I could get an extension cord. While the anecdote is t…

> If tech workers would chafe at rigid role definitions, a tech worker's union that they control would not impose them. Name a union, any union, that does not impose rigid role definitions. The fact is, there aren't any. Their entire purpose is to categorize employees into roles as a basis for bargaining. If every worker was unique, then collective bargaining would be impossible. The entire point is to group people t…

Does SAG have rigid role definitions?

Re: How tech workers at Kickstarter formed one of the only unions in the industry

#383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The tech industry has a bias for youth, which is mutually exclusive with experience. I don't know much about the medical industry, but I wager surgeons face less ageism once the gray hairs start coming in. With that age comes experience younger surgeons simply couldn't have. Maybe that makes them better surgeons, or maybe not. But it seems to me that ageism in tech complicates comparisons to fields which value experi…

My point was that the OPPOSITE is true in most other fields. If you don't have grey hairs, you simply are not considered for the top jobs at all in certain industries. YOE (years of experience) is nearly everything for some professions, tech is surprisingly quite robust in that regard.

Tech is more like "reverse ageist" instead of being egalitarian.
Post reply on HN