Live data from Hacker News

Mmm, Pi-hole

troyhunt.com

381–390 of 421 posts

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#381

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The included dashboard with the pi-hole is incredibly easy to use, so I just have it bookmarked on all our browsers in case someone in my family needs to pause it or whitelist/blacklist a site. We barely ever have to touch it though, mostly just to update the blocklists occasionally.

I was thinking use-cases for house guests or very non-technical folks (what is a bookmark?).

Arcade button[0] mounted on the RPi that initiates the 5 minute pause script?

[0]https://www.adafruit.com/product/1185

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#382
post #317

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hmmm, not sure I recall. Mind linking back to the conversation? Point is, we don't choose what domains are blocked or not, so there is nothing we can do except ship with a default whitelist. But we're not going to do that either, if we were to start doing that... what's to say we wouldn't whitelist something more nefarious. It's safest for us, and our reputation, to stay out of the finer points of the actual blocked/…

Can't find it, it may have been on chat. But I did find a very similar request here with a work around: https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/49ckht/feature_requ... So I understand you don't control the lists, but you do control the oobe and it seems like it might not be working for some people.

That post is 2 years old, and the op understood and was ok with the outcome...

Oobe is either 1)leave suggested defaults as is 2)don't use those lists.

Option 2 is available in the installer before you're even up and running. There is only so much hand holding we can do, to be fair. We have an extensive support community, and plenty of documentation, and yes, whilst I agree some users may fall between the cracks, the majority are able to find a solution to their problems.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#383
post #7

> Do you use a popular browser extension? How confident are you that the creator wouldn’t accept a $10k offer to hand it over only to have it then go rogue on you? What makes the Pi-Hole organization any more trustworthy? (and the software stack it all depends on) Personally, I'm inclined to trust them both and hope that the long arm of the GDPR will be effective. Optimistic, I know.

Considering that over 20% of https://pi-hole.net is blocked as malicious ads by my browser, I don't really understand why you would trust them to block not only the crap across the wider internet but even against their own self-interest. Remember the warning signs of craziness with NoScript? It's like you guys never learn!

Could you please not create new accounts for every few comments you post? We ban accounts that do this, and it's in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

HN is a community. Users needn't use their real name, but do need to have some consistent identity for others to relate to. Otherwise we may as well have no usernames and no community at all. That would be a different kind of forum. Anonymity is fine, and throwaways for a specific purpose are ok, just not routinely.

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#384

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm confused. You want people to write all content for free? Whilst that works for a lot of people who do it in their spare time, it does restrict anyone looking to write professionally from contributing.

Not parent, but I would absolutely _demand_ people to write all content for free. I refuse to pay a single cent for anything that is even remotely accessible on the Internet and does not result in a physical tangible good being delivered to me, of which I pay $15/mo as acceptable rate-limited mobile LTE bandwidth -- my only communication related recurring cost. There are several reasons at play here: - Content qualit…

The best content I've ever read has been books that each took years to write. After that come NPR and the Washington Post. Then Ars. I pay for all of them, and everything else I read, present company included, isn't even in the same league of quality.

I guess I'm saying that I couldn't disagree with you more; if all the content I didn't pay for went away, I doubt I'd be negativity effected at all.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#385
post #49

So I have tried using pi-hole in past and I think one of the problems is - some websites refusing to function if ads are blocked. IIRC - British Airways website uses some javascript that requires ad to be disabled for finishing checking in. It may have changed now but there are other websites too which may or may not work as expected. With browser extensions it is typically easy to disable the ad blocker one time and…

It's super easy to turn it off for five minutes in the admin interface.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve been running this kind of setup for over 5 years on my home network, and the only complaint I’ve ever gotten was the Google search results that are ads or shopping links don’t work (yes, my wife clicks on these). If a web site didn’t function I wouldnt know it was due to DNS, because I never turn this off. I’d simply chalk it up to it being a defective website and not use it.

Yes - but sometimes you don't have that choice. Would you rather not use a essential service(flight check-in or pay electricity bill) or disable the adblocker temporarily? To each its own I guess and tricky thing with pi-hole is, it is VERY hard to tell if website isn't working because of adblocker or because you are using Linux or it is simply broken.

In the situation I would just disconnect from my wifi and use 4g.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#387
post #264

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cable sucks because the revenue comes from the ads, not your cable bill.

Which is interesting because that is the environment where paid ads have the least structural advantage. My take is that no matter what people say they prefer to subsidize their content by viewing ads over actually paying the equitable price for it.

I lean toward agreeing with you. Sure. I'd rather view ads than pay. BUT! Why I'm setting up a pi-hole isn't about ads in and of themselves. It's the intrusive and misleading ads. It's the tracking and difficulty opting out of targeted advertising.

I don't have a problem with tv ads for shampoo that I won't ever buy. I do have a problem with a web page that surrounds a legit news article with bizarre ads with cockimamy health claims, and links that don't go where they claim to go.

If a website says, "Pay up or look at these 'spider veins' ads" that's entitlement, arrogance and open contempt. That's not treating me like a desired customer.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#388

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, agree that fixed-price deals with publishers / aggregators are tenable. Spotify works for people, for example. The original argument was essentially that there was a minimum transaction size that was cognitively viable at scale.

I understand it's about cognitive costs. What I propose makes the cognitive load of actual monetary payment a single decision per month. I pay X. Let the aggregator and the publishers automatically figure out every little fractional detail.

If the objective of paying is to make the web better and reward quality content, you don't want two pages of clickbait to pay more than one page of watergate-level investigative reporting.

And any automated system to tell clickbait from quality journalism will incentivise people to trick it.

So at the very least, you need a refund button.

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#389

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where I feel my hand was forced was when a friend wanted help promoting a professional conference in the area of data and tech. I went to the website and, in the center of the page, there was an ad for cellulite cream. OH! C'MON!!! I believe in the conference, but I'm not going to share the link with that ad on it. It's been explained to me that the website owners don't know what ads are being served up. All they kno…

Someone's been searching for cellulite cream on Amazon!

LOL!

Re: Mmm, Pi-hole

#390

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What in the world does your subscription pay for, if you still get advertisements on the New York Times?

Same thing my subscription pays for if I get the dead tree edition: ads sprinkled in with the news. Right or wrong, it's not like there isn't 100 year old precedent for this.

Right, but if you've already paid I don't see why you'd want to turn ads back on? You've already fulfilled your moral duty to reward them.
Post reply on HN