If the car was able to pick up the person with the sensors, but the system failed to stop the collision, will the programmers who designed the autonomous system be held ethically accountable for the bug that led to the death? O_O
Tempe Police Release Video of Uber Accident
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#382The description given before the video was released painted a picture in my mind that the woman was on the median and "suddenly" entered the roadway in front of the vehicle. I pictured someone darting across the road directly in front of the car, with no way to stop in time. This video shows a completely different scenario. The woman started on the median, but the vehicle was in the #2 lane. She wasn't visible to the…
Humans not paying attention can never be solved, but hopefully we can get to the bottom of this failure and then fix it systemically.
Unfortunately given how shady Uber are, we will never be able to trust their technical analysis in the event one is ever released.
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#383How did LIDAR and IR not catch that? That seems like a pretty serious problem. It's clear from the video that a human driver actually would've had more trouble since the pedestrian showed up in the field of view right before the collision, yet that's in the visible spectrum. When I argue for automated driving (as a casual observer), I tell people about exactly this sort of stuff (a computer can look in 20 places at t…
It isn't at all clear from the video. Video cameras of this quality vastly underperform human vision in low-light conditions.
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#384It's very disingenuous to release this video. This is not the picture the car saw nor the human. That coupled with the fact that no radar or lidar data was released makes me wonder why the police seem to be bending over backwards to absolve Uber.
Police are nearly always primarily motorists and therefore biased to the motorist perspective.
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#385Earlier quoted context omitted.
You mean like the Mercedes system from 2007 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6DMidknVCo ? I agree that IR should have caught the bicyclist earlier, and that it didn't suggests that these cars might also kill quite a few deer with a similar low light profile. (or this one from Cadillac : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPIpNG6mLCY )
You either kill a deer or get killed by a moose... at highway speed.
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#388I do wonder if perhaps Uber made the video darker before releasing. Or used a camera that is not the main sensing camera. Because I would hope the cars are smart enough to increase ISO to get more detail at night time.
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#390Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a broken record here, but: Seriously. Go spend some time in /r/roadcam on reddit to get yourself accustomed to what a typical dashboard camera video looks like. People here are drawing all sorts of conclusions based on seeing an unfamiliar type of video, and that's a really bad thing. The two biggest things to get used to are: 1. Dashcams do a terrible job in dark or low-light scenes. The car's headlights, and th…
Here is what even a GoPro can do at night: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0HamWCVrFI
The same camera in movement facing moving lights might never be able to adjust its sensitivity.