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Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Perfect for spammers, scammers and domain squatters, who can now automate their activities even more. Can’t think of any other uses for this given the current state of LLM ‘agents’, though I can’t wait for the next report of something like ‘openclaw registered 1000 domains for me without asking and now cloudflare won’t refund me’.

I was about to say, this type of automated domain purchasing and deployment is a godsend to scammers. They buy up a bunch of .top, .shop and .xyz domains for $1 each. They spam them out in in all those "USPS tracking" spam text and Facebook fake store ads. The shelf life on these domains is a few days at best before they get shut down, now you can automate domain rotation and not have to pause your spam campaigns.

How come their domain registrar accounts don't get shut down?

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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I mean, Cloudflare was always kind of scary. They filter the world wide web, literally.

Yea, I appreciate them protecting it from DDOS. I always viewed them as a responsible company. To me this feels irresponsible and like it's main goal is to forward autonomous cyber attacks. Which is antithetical to what they do? Maybe I am missing the legitimate use case here, but I can only see this being used for removing responsibility from crime or espionage? Does anyone know offhand if cloudflare is a department…

Most people don't get DDOSed, and for many of the ones that do, they can just wait it out until the attacker gets tired of burning money. It's very costly and risky for the attacker. Obviously they do occur sometimes - so does murder - but Cloudflare is massively exaggerating the risk of drive-by shootings to make you buy their bulletproof vests.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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scamming appears to be lone industry where LLMs are truly a 10x revolution

scamming and advertising. Generate hyper personalized ads in any format! Embed them stealthily into virtually any context! I guarantee thats all big tech is thinking about as the future of LLMs. All this coding stuff is merely a good will investment to buy them time until they can implement this

My former employer is now generating AI video ads tailored to the specific user.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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I’m not saying that you’re wrong. But it’s worth noting that any good technology starts off being called a toy and with most people not being able to imagine its usefulness.

Yeah, like blockchain. (Sorry for the snark, I'm hangry)

And metaverse.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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The likely outcome is that the phone system becomes massively more locked down. Your phone will only ring if the caller has a number which is backed by a real ID, particularly one from your own country. It will become increasingly difficult to contact someone you don’t have a legitimate connection to. The banking system will become increasingly fraud resilient with better real time detection of fraud. Your phone may…

You would just get called from an agent (bot) based in your country. There’s no easy way to prevent that. Fraud is massive and it’s becoming cheaper and easier to run at scale.

China has much stricter control over phone #'s and identities than USA/EU does. It's much more difficult for me to create a placeholder digital identity in China. I wouldn't love that solution, but it exists.

As a result, it's very difficult for me to use a lot of Chinese websites and it's a pretty sizable barrier to hardware development when Chinese citizens can just download the relevant datasheet off some Chinese forum in 5 minutes, but I have to sign NDA's with western companies or figure out how to WeChat a Chinese OEM to send me their datasheets.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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That is ironic. Four years ago, cloudflare didn’t let human me have an account / buy domains because I signed up, never used a single service but didn’t respond to a request to verify my drivers license > This account is in violation of Cloudflare's Terms of Service. Specifically fraud. The suspension is permanent. (Yes that’s really it. Sincerely. No “but I also abused X”)

Aaron Swartz faced 50 years in prison and $1 million in fines for sharing academic research papers on a local network. Meta/OpenAI/et al. rip off copyrights for profit and the Pentagon comes calling with flowers.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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A lot of good and interesting things started out as toys We should build more toys

I don't think there are a lot in the SAAS world. Usually when something quirky and new launches, readers on this website can discern something about useful intent. Arguably Github, Slack, Twitch, TikTok were basically toys at launch with a lot of people questioning possible market fit. But there is a difference between those products - and for example - everything that came out of the crypto blockchain scene. This ne…

Slack, of course, came out of a video game company pivot. Dropbox is famous here because of that one take. The need to allow very intelligent people to be whimsical is maybe best captured by Richard Feynman spinning dinner plates at the cafeteria, which would later lead him to a Nobel Prize for it.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. I'd pay a business $100 for a proper report on the rentals available in a city that meet a criteria and are amalgamated from all the the various platforms. Doing it yourself (at least in Canada) means creating accounts on a bunch of platforms, and the process…

> Any business can be run in a shady manner if the human decided. No kidding. > One fully automated business I think could exist and might be useful is apartment/condo rental. We're starting strong on the category of businesses that generate no actual value and just scrape an amount of value out of existing transactions that would've happened anyway, i.e., rent-seeking. But good for you, you can now artificially shri…

So if anyone accepts your challenge will you move the goalposts and tell them their business isn’t good enough in your point of view? It doesn’t seem like you’re actually interested in dialogue. You also don’t seem to be aware of the definition of rent seeking but that’s an entirely different topic.

I’ll sit out your little experiment because I’m not in the mood for this kind of response. But you may discover that if you turn down the venom a little, qualified people could teach you things like automated business models that are quite ethical and even the definition of rent seeking.

Have a nice day.

Re: Agents can now create Cloudflare accounts, buy domains, and deploy

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Who do you sell to when there are no more humans??

Apparently Cloudflare have decided they'll sell to the agents instead.

Exactly, because they understood that a ton of businesses will be entirely managed without humans and they are right.
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