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My biggest hesitation with these things is that there is no limit to the possible bill I may receive when the agent goes haywire. Cloudflare doesn’t see this as a problem of course.
It's not Cloudflare's job to see what you choose to buy as a problem.
The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…
It's for founders who don't have lawyers. My co-founder and I are both developers, we used Stripe Atlas to incorporate a C-Corp due to expecting to fundraise -------
I said we made a C-Corp but other founders should default to LLC, which Stripe Atlas can also streamline. An LLC is superior to C-Corp in pretty much every way for any pre-raise founders who don't have an extra $2,000 to >$10,000/year they're willing to part with for higher franchise taxes, "foreign" (different state) corporation registration, CPA's, and additionally lawyers if any investments aren't YC SAFE's (e.g. not YC, Neo, or A16Z SpeedRun).
Also note that for pre-revenue C-Corps, Delaware franchise taxes are scaled against number of shares, not company revenue or # of employees, so you can save some money by forming your company with 1,000,000 shares and then file a "Unanimous action of the board of directors" to increase it to 10,000,000 just before angel/pre-seed/seed round, and potentially save a few hundred dollars on your first year franchise taxes, depending on when you incorporate and raise. But if a few hundred dollars makes a difference to you, incorporating as an LLC instead of a C-Corp is the only defensible decision.
And as always, start your taxes 3-4 months before they're due. If you want a CPA to do them (which you should if you have any revenue), you'll need to retain them way ahead of time for C-Corps. If you're filling tax forms out yourself, you'll want to start at least a month before they're due.
IANAL, but I wonder what it means for an agent to “agree” to terms of service or to “agree” to pay for something. Can agents enter into contracts? It’s a straightforward technical problem to wrap an API or MCP or something around the “create an account” function. But what will a court do when the agent creates a million accounts, mines bitcoin for a month, and then cannot or will not pay?
It's already not clear what it means for humans to do it, but it doesn't prevent every single service from asking it. At least an AI has a chance to ingest it all.
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Perfect for spammers, scammers and domain squatters, who can now automate their activities even more. Can’t think of any other uses for this given the current state of LLM ‘agents’, though I can’t wait for the next report of something like ‘openclaw registered 1000 domains for me without asking and now cloudflare won’t refund me’.
And cloudflare can actually sell them priority access to pass their bot protection or introduce micropaiments for agents access content. I feel cloudflare is getting a bit scary tbh. It is like your friendly bot net.
They are arming spammers and scammers with these tools so you need their product to protect yourself from them
The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…
But it’s worth noting that any good technology starts off being called a toy and with most people not being able to imagine its usefulness.
The reason this blog post does not come with any concrete examples how to use this enablement for useful and constructive things tells you something very important - it is a toy and they do not know who and how they will use it. It is cool feature but to what end? Buying a domain is not something you have to do daily to require any kind of automation. I am also not sure who Stripe Atlas for. I am genuinely confused.…
A lot of good and interesting things started out as toys We should build more toys
Arguably Github, Slack, Twitch, TikTok were basically toys at launch with a lot of people questioning possible market fit.
But there is a difference between those products - and for example - everything that came out of the crypto blockchain scene. This new product by Cloudflare feels more in the latter camp than the former.
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A lot of what enabled Web 1.0 was how easy it was for an average web user to create his own website. An average web user got far less technical since, and making a website got harder instead. Now, if anyone could just ask an AI agent to set up a website, and get a personal page with an e-mail inbox and a domain - all reasonably secure, TLS set up, billing added as +$5 per year to the AI subscription bundle? Maybe tha…
Yes, this is exactly my hope too. Many hacker/cypherpunk ideas failed or never reached wide adoption because they were just too complicated for regular people: GPG/web of trust, self-hosting websites and email, having your own custom software for personal tasks… Instead, everybody ended up using Gmail, iMessage/WhatsApp, and Facebook, and things are as centralized as they can be. Agents could be a force in breaking t…
But at that point you're big enough to build it properly.