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Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by glerk » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:09 PM UTC

poisonborz wrote: post #368

glerk wrote: post #291

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There's a reason why OpenAI and Anthropic (and before them Google, Apple, Meta, etc.) were started in the US and not Europe. And let's not compare salaries we each get for similar work because that tends to make my European friends very sad.

Yes, and that reason is a big single market (and a huge military and 100 years of power play to back it up) - and yes, there's a lot the EU could to unify its market - but it's not "less regulations". > compare salaries Let's not even begin this trope prevalet on HN, those taxes are funding a working healthcare and public infrastructure in EU.

> and that reason is a big single market (and a huge military and 100 years of power play to back it up)

That certainly helps. You could also add talent concentration due to excellent universities and top-tier companies already being here. But the truth is that you can incorporate a business in less than a week here, employment is at-will, there are no unions or other such bullshit, taxes are low, the general way you deal with regulator is ask for forgiveness instead of ask for permission, etc.

Say I'm currently working on a project in the crypto or AI space. If I wanted to make it into a commercial product, do you think I'm gonna go to France or Germany? It might take me a few weeks just to get past the first layers of red-tape to get a business licence there. If I hire someone who turns out to be incompetent, I'm probably stuck with them until I gather enough evidence to justify firing. And I have to live in constant fear of the state deciding my business is illegal.

> funding a working healthcare

Btw the US healthcare system is the best in the world if you can afford it. Health insurance is usually provided through the employer. I can have an appointment with a doctor within days, emergency room wait time is on the order of minutes. Never had a problem with the quality of care.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by thrance » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:20 PM UTC

CaptWorld wrote: post #196

nsingh2 wrote: post #166

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This kind of sentiment, on its own, is hollow. Just more "violence bad", until the next round. There is growing anger and discontentment in a large part of the population, driven by inequality of wealth and power. Hopelessness and a lack of control over the future. Are the nodes of power willing to spread wealth and control more widely to stabilize the country? What are they willing to do to consolidate their power?…

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-025-09797-z https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/10/ar...

Serf mindset like that won't get us very far...

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by glerk » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:26 PM UTC

Findecanor wrote: post #278

glerk wrote: post #119

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I've been seeing some version of "Sam Altman is the antichrist" on every platform in the last few weeks. I'm still trying to find concretely what makes this guy so bad compared to every executive out there. So far, all I could find is: - OpenAI made a deal with the Pentagon (fair) - OpenAI changed their business model from non-profit to for-profit (fair?) - Sexual assault allegations by his sister. Sam Altman denies…

Ilya Sutskever and Dario Amodei were high up at OpenAI before becoming competitors. They are just two of many people who have known Altman personally who have accused him of being a lying sociopath. I would not call that vague. It is not just a question of morality. A sociopath with that amount of power can be a danger.

> It is not just a question of morality. A sociopath with that amount of power can be a danger.

You probably think that "sociopathy" is an incurable disease which would make him some sort of vampire. This is pure bs. The way these "personality disorders" are diagnosed is the same as taking a buzzfeed personality quiz. This is not very rigorous stuff, I would even classify it as pseudoscience. As a tangent, I really despise how they are using greek and latin roots to prompt into our brains that what their models are describing is in any way similar to actual pathologies.

So yeah, maybe Sam Altman is generally a dishonest person if we believe what Ilya Sutskever, Dario Amodei, and others are saying. If that's the case (I have no reason to doubt it), he should stop lying and manipulating people, there are more satisfying ways to achieve one's objectives.

But the "sociopath" label is pure bs, along with the rest of those "personality disorders". That shit is more dangerous and harmful than a million lying Sam Altmans.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by happytoexplain » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:28 PM UTC

leaves83829 wrote: post #180

happytoexplain wrote: post #97

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>[if] most of the population finds itself without money. there are other ways to live with very little money. This is even more hideous than expressions of approval for individual violence. This is a dystopian acquiescence.

examples include: Great depression, third world countries like ghana, south africa, etc (and countries that have collapsed like syria), also the hazda tribe and other native tribes untouched by technology, as well as other similar to human mammalian species that share our planet like monkeys, apes, chenobos, all are able to survive without money albeit with more favorable climate/physiology.

I might not really understand this response - are you trying to justify a dystopia by describing how it can be literally survived? I.e. imminent physical death is your bar for where revolting is "allowed"? I'm reeling trying to understand how this can be what you're doing.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:47 PM UTC

abenga wrote: post #262

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #83

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> what are people without billions of dollars and without the ear of the president supposed to do to affect change in this modern, post-capitalist hellscape? California has a referendum system. Get signatures for a policy and put it to the voters.

The billionaires will blanket the airwaves with bad-faith argument ads and you will lose.

> billionaires will blanket the airwaves with bad-faith argument ads and you will lose

This is a long way to say you don’t have the votes. Airwaves affect turnout. They don’t flip people on positions.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:49 PM UTC

Teever wrote: post #259

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #22

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> Violence won't solve anything Violence can solve problems. This kind of violence is stupid, counterproductive and immoral. Strategically deploying violence takes time, resources and discipline. Wanking off with a gun does not.

When do you think that we will see the first successful strike on a CEO with a drone?

> When do you think that we will see the first successful strike on a CEO with a drone?

Right before we see drone body guards and protest monitors gun down innocent bystanders.

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:52 PM UTC

UncleMeat wrote: post #336

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12

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If violent attacks start metastasizing, it legitimately justifies a police crackdown. Most of the population will be for that. The pro-Palestinian activists set their cause back a year by overplaying their hands in Columbia at the start of the war. If we want to ensure zero AI legislation for the next 2 years, I couldn’t think of a better way to ensure that than to start potting randos in the streets.

Overplaying their hands? They broke a few windows and were in a place they weren't allowed to be in. How horrible . Doesn't complaining about protestors at Columbia just make it clear that these complaints aren't actually about violence but are instead about rabble-rousers?

> They broke a few windows and were in a place they weren't allowed to be in. How horrible

I was in New York during that time. They turned an entire swath of the city into a police zone. The dominant narrative was sympathy for the cause increasingly giving way to frustration to the destruction.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:53 PM UTC

impossiblefork wrote: post #256

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #36

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> the sentiment for many is that 'we don't care we have nothing to lose anyway' Everyone says this before they learn what they didn’t value. Peace, for example. > Its easy for you to say, all perched up as a VC It’s easy to say for anyone who has read the history of political violence. When that comes on the table, universally [1], the people with power also have the power to raise armies. The people who stand to ben…

I think you're extremely wrong here. Here in Sweden, political violence by the farmer class ensured that by the end of the pre-democracy era, self-owning farmers held 50% of the land, whereas in Denmark, it was only 10%. This was due to violence , serious, organized war-like violence; and yes, of course the government brought in mercenaries, noble forces, etc. but fighting the farmer class had a substantial cost, and…

> serious, organized war-like violence

This works. Disciplined, organized violence. Lone wolves shooting at homes and gunning down healthcare middle managers does not.

> this is false

It’s deeply precedented.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:55 PM UTC

donkey_brains wrote: post #113

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #3

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I think you have to be at least remotely a sympathetic figure to be a martyr

> you have to be at least remotely a sympathetic figure to be a martyr

No you don’t. Terrorists and dictators are routinely martyred. You just need symbolic value. The actual person rarely represents their canonized form.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by UncleMeat » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 7:04 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #377

UncleMeat wrote: post #336

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Overplaying their hands? They broke a few windows and were in a place they weren't allowed to be in. How horrible . Doesn't complaining about protestors at Columbia just make it clear that these complaints aren't actually about violence but are instead about rabble-rousers?

> They broke a few windows and were in a place they weren't allowed to be in. How horrible I was in New York during that time. They turned an entire swath of the city into a police zone. The dominant narrative was sympathy for the cause increasingly giving way to frustration to the destruction.

The police did that. Not the students.