Political violence is not acceptable in a democracy. Full stop, no "but". That's all that needs to be said on this thread.
Tell that to the parisians.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp84sRpM1Js
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#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
> French Revolution was pretty peaceful The elites after the French Revolution were not only mostly the same as before, they escaped with so much money and wealth that it’s actually debated if they increased their wealth share through the chaos [1]. [1] https://www.jstor.org/stable/650023
Do you have any suggestions for a real peaceful approach to get rid of the French royalty?
> suggestions for a real peaceful approach to get rid of the French royalty?
What the British did. Tale of Two Cities. Land and electoral reform.
One of them stayed geopolitically relevant for another century. One of them became Germany’s sock puppet.
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I think you have to be at least remotely a sympathetic figure to be a martyr
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Its not really about that though is it? The people who are doing this stuff are unhinged but why? Perhaps they do not trust law and order. Perhaps they feel helpless and have been led to believe its over for the labour class due to the overhyped marketing and so on. A serious frank conversation needs to be had and the hyping needs to stop.
They’re some combination of deranged, depressed and looking for a thrill. In most countries they fail to stab someone. Here they have guns.
You can't keep marginalizing people and expecting stability.
Here's your canary.
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Why is this comment flagged? It's not advocating violence just asking why some violence is actively opposed while others are ignored
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is obviously true, but you're just inviting the rebuttals. Arguments that civil violence is unproductive are boring and obvious. Normal people have been acculturated to understand the point already. The only way to have an "interesting" conversation about this is to take the other side. All of those arguments will be vile, as they have to be given the context. I'm not criticizing you, and I guess I'm glad someon…
In high school the 90s, I learned about what the founding fathers said about violence. But, I guess that's too 18th century now.
Except they only won because UK was too busy spending money on a way to stop the French.
Like 1812 when the Brits weren't busy with the French they easily came in and burnt the US capital as punishment for burning the Canadian one. It's not that the British army suddenly got a lot stronger; they just weren't busy fighting on two continents.
That said, civil disobedience is largely pointless. We're in a capitalistic society so money is the name of the game. Rosa Parks did shit-all; it was the boycott of the bus system for 9 months that made the buses cave.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is obviously true, but you're just inviting the rebuttals. Arguments that civil violence is unproductive are boring and obvious. Normal people have been acculturated to understand the point already. The only way to have an "interesting" conversation about this is to take the other side. All of those arguments will be vile, as they have to be given the context. I'm not criticizing you, and I guess I'm glad someon…
You've basically just said anyone who doesn't hold the "approved" opinion is wrong and then you called them names. But you wrapped it in extra words so that it's less flagrant. Did you ever think that maybe people do in fact believe what they say they believe?
Everybody who believes civil violence is a productive solution to any problems we have in 2026 is wrong. I don't see myself as having called anyone names; rather, I said that the point was so banal that the only conversation you're likely to see is from people who get dopamine hits from taking the edgy other side of the argument.
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, French Revolution was pretty peaceful
> French Revolution was pretty peaceful The elites after the French Revolution were not only mostly the same as before, they escaped with so much money and wealth that it’s actually debated if they increased their wealth share through the chaos [1]. [1] https://www.jstor.org/stable/650023
This is called cherry picking.
The comment refers to an article specifically discussing only one aspect of a major historical event.
The French revolution is considered one of the most important events in the history of Europe, because of the great impact it had on the (among others) politics, economy and the quality of life of common people.
Downplaying its importance by trying to water its impact down to "but rich still rich, no?" is a sign, that the comment might have been made in bad faith or without proper understanding of the source material.
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#119Crazy, as bad of a person as I think Altman is, he isn't even the worst AI CEO. But even the worst of them doesn't deserve this.
I've been seeing some version of "Sam Altman is the antichrist" on every platform in the last few weeks. I'm still trying to find concretely what makes this guy so bad compared to every executive out there. So far, all I could find is:
- OpenAI made a deal with the Pentagon (fair)
- OpenAI changed their business model from non-profit to for-profit (fair?)
- Sexual assault allegations by his sister. Sam Altman denies this and it's currently before a court.
- Overpromised AI to investors (everyone does this)
- Lobbying against regulations (I support)
- Some vague accusations of "being a liar" and a "sociopath" by his competitors Ilya Sutskever and Dario Amodei.
- He doesn't know how to code (lol)
Is there anything that I'm missing? Does he put ketchup on his pizza?
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have any suggestions for a real peaceful approach to get rid of the French royalty?
> suggestions for a real peaceful approach to get rid of the French royalty? What the British did. Tale of Two Cities. Land and electoral reform. One of them stayed geopolitically relevant for another century. One of them became Germany’s sock puppet.