Live data from Hacker News

I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

morrick.me

371–380 of 606 posts

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

#371

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That may be true for you but it's not true for many people, like me. I have twenty years of iPhone data, eg messages, apps, etc. I can't easily move to some other phone. A desktop, maybe, but I'd still have to repurchase or find alternates to a bunch of software. It is far, far better if the existing system _stays useful_.

"twenty years"? Wasn't the iPhone released in 2007?

I think rounding over 18 years up to 20 is reasonable.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

#372

Honest question from someone with no hardware knowledge: How technically possible and commercially feasible would it be to make these huge lenses and camera components removable? For example, imagine if Apple made a phone with no built-in camera, where the camera is instead a separate magnetic component that you attach to the phone only when you want to use it.

You must be young! We have had modular phones already, and I wish I bought one for posterity. Time travel back to 2016 and get yourself an LG G5. There was also Google's 'Project Ara'. Whilst you are in your time machine, pick up one of Amazon's smartphones with a 3D display and stereo cameras (or did they have four?). It all made sense in theory, but we went the other way, to make it so that not even the battery cou…

> there is nothing wrong with taking money from those that want to peacock.

There _is_ something wrong with using that money to buy up supply chains and thereby undermining the viability of alternatives for more sensical people.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

#373

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m a long time Apple user. But I never do anything that locks me into Apple in a way that makes me dependent on Apple. I could move to Linux tomorrow and everything I depend on would be fine. There’s no Apple service I actually need. I think Google and Android is worse in this way. The backup Android I had years ago forced me to login with my Gmail or I couldn’t use it. My old iPhone happily runs without being logge…

Doesn’t your hardware lock you in?

No. You can always export your files and your passwords etc.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

#376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be honest I sometimes feel that my aversion to getting looked into an ecosystem is actually a detriment in some ways. I have a horrible mishmash of apps and programs and nothing integrates really well long term (story of life on a Linux desktop, really). Maybe life would really be better if I just hand over control and become a true believer!

> a horrible mishmash of apps and programs and nothing integrates really well long term (story of life on a Linux desktop, really) I'm confused. What is so bad about GNU/Linux/(KDE or GNOME)? I am a long time KDE user, but I have no ill will towards GNOME. Once a while, I need to use an app from the GNOME ecosystem, or use a GNOME desktop. It is never hard to navigate. GNOME vs KDE feels a bit like English from US vs…

I used to use i3. Even now I've mostly moved to Cinnamon via KDE (which I abandoned as Plasma made my laptop fans spin too much, maybe user error? I never solved it) I haven't "settled" on anywhere and never really felt either was good enough to commit to. Obviously you don't have to commit, but you end up kind of unmoored. Especially as a lot of GNOME apps seem somewhat lacking so I often end up using, say, Okular or XReader rather than Evince, or CuteCom rather than whatever the GNOME serial terminal is. And I also gave up on vim as an editor so I don't really even have a "home" editor other than VS Code which is just kind of default. Plus a bunch of Windows only industrial and East Asian software the only works via a VM which is pretty clunky.

I used to use Macs at work and while I never really loved the experience (and certainly not that of fiddling with kernel drivers) and write keenly felt the metaphorical guards watching from the towers, it really did feel like a thought-through experience for a normal computer user.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

#377
The thing is, Apple only has to be better than the competition.

So they can shit on their 38 years of UI guidelines because what are the alternatives?

At least so far. I'm sure they can iOS ify Mac OS enough to piss off developers completely if they try.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

#378
post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. > When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder ma…

Pre MacOS X was a 90s style OS and had major limitations that were a problem for every user, starting with no real multi-threading, and I think no protected memory. Where it was great was in the simplicity to the user. If you wanted to install or uninstall a driver or functionality, all you had to do is move an extension file in or out of the extension folder and reboot. That simplicity was lost in MacOS X. That made…

Locking down the OS so you can't install or uninstall functionality at all is not simplicity.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

#379

> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder made…

"If the latest product seems good, buy it. If not, don’t."

Well, they have done a good job with lock in. If you've bought a bunch on Apple Music, you need an apple device laying around to get it. Maybe some people just keep there old phone around just for this. But it can be a hard transition.

Really, 'lock in', is the key to a lot of technology these days, so be aware.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

#380
post #355

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pre MacOS X was a 90s style OS and had major limitations that were a problem for every user, starting with no real multi-threading, and I think no protected memory. Where it was great was in the simplicity to the user. If you wanted to install or uninstall a driver or functionality, all you had to do is move an extension file in or out of the extension folder and reboot. That simplicity was lost in MacOS X. That made…

Locking down the OS so you can't install or uninstall functionality at all is not simplicity.

It is if Grandma keeps downloading scams and installing them.
Post reply on HN