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I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Post by whyenot »

snowwrestler wrote: post #120
xmprt wrote: post #106

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The biggest reason for me using Android is simply because of how much competition there is in the space. If I use Apple products and don't like something they do then I'm stuck on an older version at best and need to migrate everything from their walled garden (at great cost) at worst. With Android, I can use Samsung one generation, switch to Pixel the next, and give Motorola/some other smaller company a chance later…

What would be the “great cost” of moving from an iPhone to an Android phone? I’m struggling to think of what would cost money at all, aside from the phone itself.

> need to migrate everything from their walled garden (at great cost)

It's not just about migrating the phone, if you own an Apple Watch, AirPods, one of their laptops, their online services, etc. all that stuff works best within the Apple ecosystem. If you move they don't work as well (if at all) and you may need to replace them. If you are deeply bought in to Apple products, it really isn't that easy to move.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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snowwrestler wrote: post #89

> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder made…

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Post by yzydserd »

killingtime74 wrote: post #166
acoustics wrote: post #142

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iMessage is extraordinarily popular in the US. Its userbase dwarfs Signal by over an order of magnitude

Ah fair enough. Not as many use it here in Australia

Is there data behind that or is it just anecdata?

A year ago someone on HN said “I can confirm that iMessage is extremely common in Australia. WhatsApp is very uncommon, outside of people with European (and maybe South American?) friends or family to keep in touch with.”

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39365562

My guess is you’re both expressing truths of your individual social circles but making unjustified extrapolations to an entire nation.

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Post by kelnos »

CharlieIsAHero wrote: post #151

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It's bizarre to me that we've gotten so used to disposable things these days that we're conditioned to think of replaceable batteries as an odd feature.

I remember when Powerbooks had batteries that were not just user-replaceable, but field-replaceable.

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Post by lurking_swe »

hedora wrote: post #86
MangoToupe wrote: post #77

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Airpods are very, very expensive compared to competitors with 90% of the same features. I've been using a $30 set for several years and the main drawback is it's difficult to switch devices—because apple doesn't allow third parties to use access the proprietary comms that allows this for airpods. Also, I think the white is ugly. But kids seem to love it.

AirPods (and Bose QuietComfort) make me dizzy/nauseous. Also, they don’t have decent passive noise cancellation, so they’re not appropriate for mowing the lawn, etc. My Sennheiser ear buds solve all these problems for a much lower price, and their sound quality is much better than the last pair of AirPods I tried. To each their own, I guess.

well to be fair, some people simply don’t tolerate ANC well. Likely due to a more sensitive vestibular system. I believe this group often (not always) also struggles with motion sickness.

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Post by CharlieIsAHero »

kelnos wrote: post #184
CharlieIsAHero wrote: post #151

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It's bizarre to me that we've gotten so used to disposable things these days that we're conditioned to think of replaceable batteries as an odd feature. I remember when Powerbooks had batteries that were not just user-replaceable, but field-replaceable.

In headphones? I think it’s a bit dump. The form factor is more important. I would be happy for replaceable battery in MacBooks tho.

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Post by dboreham »

yzydserd wrote: post #183
killingtime74 wrote: post #166

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Ah fair enough. Not as many use it here in Australia

Is there data behind that or is it just anecdata? A year ago someone on HN said “I can confirm that iMessage is extremely common in Australia. WhatsApp is very uncommon, outside of people with European (and maybe South American?) friends or family to keep in touch with.” https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39365562 My guess is you’re both expressing truths of your individual social circles but making unjustified ext…

iMessage is very popular in the US but 90% of users just think they are "texting". There's no other way to send an SMS for them.

Re: I feel Apple has lost its alignment with me and other long-time customers

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Post by grues-dinner »

wvenable wrote: post #158
snowwrestler wrote: post #89

> it’s a company that I feel has lost its alignment with me and other long-time Apple users and customers. When OS X debuted there was a daytime radio talk show in my area called “The Computer Guys.” They capably covered all sorts of computing topics, but were clearly long-time Apple dudes. And they spent weeks complaining about what a disaster OS X was. The Dock was useless and violated Apple’s HIG. The Finder made…

> If the latest product seems good, buy it. If not, don’t. There is another aspect to this though. As a user of an ecosystem, you're committed in many ways. As Apple or Microsoft or Google releases a new version of their operating system you're going to run that on hardware you already own. You're going to run software that you already own on that the OS. And you're doing to use skills and knowledge of that software…

To be honest I sometimes feel that my aversion to getting looked into an ecosystem is actually a detriment in some ways. I have a horrible mishmash of apps and programs and nothing integrates really well long term (story of life on a Linux desktop, really). Maybe life would really be better if I just hand over control and become a true believer!
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