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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by rs999gti »

bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

> You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority

You have to read into this line from the article:

> Congress directly authorized and funded CPB

He may not have the authority, but his influence over certain congress people and CPB board members can get the process moving.

Also, I have always wondered why CPB cannot just cut federal ties and become a sponsored non-profit?

During all shows you always hear or see that they are sponsored or have grants from major Fortune 500s, private families, and other institutions.

Also, whenever this defund topic comes up, CPB always says, "we receive very little from the fed, so our funding is not much and can be ignored." Well now is the time to put up and split from the US federal government officially.

https://www.propublica.org/article/big-bird-debate-how-much-...

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by koolba »

mmastrac wrote: post #4

This is quite sad. PBS and NPR were jewels of the American system. The right-wing has latched on to the message that all public-funded media that isn't right-wing-biased is _bad_ and are trying to kill it everywhere. We are constantly fighting the same battle in Canada where the right-wing accuses media of being left-leaning, while most major news outlets are actually American-owned and slant right a lot of the time.…

> This is quite sad. PBS and NPR were jewels of the American system. The right-wing has latched on to the message that all public-funded media that isn't right-wing-biased is _bad_ and are trying to kill it everywhere.

It's pretty hard to argue that PBS and NPR do not have a left wing bias. The closest thing they'd have to a conservative voice would be bringing in a token anti-Trump (generally former) Republican.

NPR's legal affairs correspondent was close friends with Justice Ginsburg. The latter even officiated Totenberg's wedding. Do you really think she could give an unbiased report on anything involving the court? Get real... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Totenberg#Conflicts_of_in...

Real question is, why are we subsidizing it all?

If the masses want to consume left wing dribble, let them fund it themselves. The right already does that for conservative talk radio. Let the market decide.

PBS would always make mention of support from, 'Viewers like you". When in reality it was from "Tax payers of which 50+% likely do not agree with funding this content".

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ta1243 »

mikepurvis wrote: post #85
hypeatei wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Right now I have some faith the courts in the US will stand up to this I think "the guardrails will hold" thinking is flawed when you have someone who is willing to completely side step the system and push the limits. We're not actually sure what holding someone from this administration in contempt even looks like functionally since U.S. marshals are under the DOJ.

Indeed. There are dozens of other moments through the past ten years of Trumpism that the supposed guardrails were to prevent and did not, and in the wake of each one the custodians of those guardrails shrugged and went "oh well... I guess that's Trump." Emoluments, tax returns, the porn star, lying under oath, J6, "fake news", losers and suckers, bone spurs, snubbing Carter, crowd size bullshit, grab em by the pussy…

> Emoluments, tax returns, the porn star, lying under oath, J6, "fake news", losers and suckers, bone spurs, snubbing Carter, crowd size bullshit, grab em by the pussy, obvious nepotism, lock her up, separating families at the border, "very fine people on both sides", "stand back and stand by", sparring with Fauci, now jailing judges, deporting people off street corners, letting Musk gut government agencies, etc etc.

It was always burning since the world's been turning?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by vel0city »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #361
vel0city wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, is Abrego Garcia back in the US and actually having a real trial? What of the other 200+ people who were illegally taken? Still there despite many court orders to return them? The courts have asked for those people to be released from ICE custody, they haven't complied with a lot of those requests. The courts have asked for them to stop abducting people off the streets without cause but they continue doing it. It…

The misleading perspective is your generalization from things that have happened to things that haven’t happened. The system as it currently exists - overzealous immigration enforcement which is often but not always enjoined - cannot ship me to El Salvador. It’s true that there’s a big danger of someone building a different system that could change that! Preventing that from happening is the key political challenge o…

> The system as it currently exists - overzealous immigration enforcement which is often but not always enjoined - cannot ship me to El Salvador

These people had no due process. If you have no due process, you too could be sent there. You'll argue, I'll just show them I'm a citizen. Who are you showing it to? Who are you proving it to? Who goes to review that? Which court reviewed these people's legal status? Which court reviewed the crimes Abrego Garcia was guilty of? Which court will review your case while you're already on the plane before you can even contact a lawyer?

Many of these people have lawful status in the US. They had their lawful status rescinded without due process and were trafficked out of the country without due process. Thinking "that can't happen to me!" is lemming ideology.

US citizens are already being removed from this country without due process despite having due process rights. And you're suggesting I shouldn't talk about it. That me talking about it ensures the next planes leave somehow.

> One of the best ways to ensure there are more transfers to El Salvador is to spread the narrative that courts are powerless and nobody can stop the administration from doing it

It has already been proven the courts are powerless to prevent it -- its already happened! The court told them to stop, the executive branch went ahead anyways, the court said to bring them back, and yet they're still there. Me pointing this out isn't ensuring those planes continue, Trump and his administration remaining in office ensures those planes continue.

Other than your theoretical arrest and expulsion from the country everything I've stated has already happened and is continuing to happen despite what the courts have said. After the first plane that was told it wasn't allowed to leave left and was doubly and triply clarified these planes aren't supposed to go, another plane left. Despite what the courts said. You really think the court opinions are what's holding up the next plane? Why didn't it stop those other planes?

And why would Trump stop? What, he's going to be impeached? As if that hasn't happened before. Congress isn't going to remove him despite him continually breaking the law.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by rs999gti »

agloe_dreams wrote: post #167
Workaccount2 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm pretty sure with Trump this time around it is much less the case. In his first admin there are endless stories of the "Adults" in the room keeping him in check. This time around he was sure to only fill his cabinet with yes men, so no one could keep him reigned in.

Heh...it is so much worse than that. Trump has no idea what he is doing, it has been very clear in interviews. In the first admin, it was the adults in the room, the thing is, it's not yes men this time...it's the villians in the room. Trump is being handed EOs that he doesn't have a clue about. For all the talk about P2025 and denial of any relation to it, they have done roughly 50% of the actions in the project alr…

> Trump is being handed EOs that he doesn't have a clue about.

Probably like every president before him.

No president like CEOs can know everything about the organization they head. They are mostly the face and mouthpiece, and depend on chiefs and VPs to tell them what needs to be done according to the agenda that CEO or president has put forth.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ta1243 »

jimbokun wrote: post #239
alickz wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also find the GOPs penchant for authoritarianism to be incongruent with their stated beliefs and values The "party of small government" seems to want a bigger government than any other party before them

You are thinking of a different GOP that disappeared a while ago.

Parties change all the time -- Trump and Lincoln lead the same party, Obama and Jackson led the same party.

Peoples views of what that party means don't always follow.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by Teever »

tzs wrote: post #369
Teever wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't like that it gets flagged, because there are some insightful conversations out there. The subject is important and the budgets of PBS and NPR pertain to the 'curiosity' guideline that Dang loves so much. What I'd prefer to see is better moderation from users and admins alike to deal with the offending comments but not the entire thread.

I don't see how you can so easily dismiss discussion of P2025's role in this administration as just Reddit stuff. Around 30 of this administration's cabinet members and agency heads are the authors of the parts of P2025 that covered the subject of the cabinet position they now hold or the agency they now head, and their actions are closely following the plan they laid out in P2025.

I'm not dismissing discussion about the subject.

I'm dismissing poor quality discussion around the subject.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by boroboro4 »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #338
boroboro4 wrote: post #186

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The people in executive pushing unitary executive power theory. And there is a chance Supreme Court will support them at that. With such theory your AG proposal not having authority doesn’t stand (in worst case it would be presidents authority).

A chance, but I suspect not much of one. If we have a unitary executive, then the president is over the Supreme Court. I suspect that at least Justices Kavanough, Barrett, and Roberts (along with the liberals) would have a problem with that. (Some of the liberals might be on board if the president was Harris rather than Trump, but no way are they going to agree with it while Trump is president.)

They always can say that the correct constitutional approach to those cases is to impeach Trump. And I'm not even sure it's exaggeration.
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