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Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

vel0city wrote: post #218
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The courts have successfully enjoined a large number of actions, required the release of many people from domestic ICE custody, and ended the transfer of anyone new to El Salvador. As I'm always reminding people, the news is a highly optimized machine to deliver you the worst thing that happened today - if you're reading it as though it's a representative sample of everything that's happening, you're going to get a m…

So, is Abrego Garcia back in the US and actually having a real trial? What of the other 200+ people who were illegally taken? Still there despite many court orders to return them? The courts have asked for those people to be released from ICE custody, they haven't complied with a lot of those requests. The courts have asked for them to stop abducting people off the streets without cause but they continue doing it. It…

The misleading perspective is your generalization from things that have happened to things that haven’t happened. The system as it currently exists - overzealous immigration enforcement which is often but not always enjoined - cannot ship me to El Salvador.

It’s true that there’s a big danger of someone building a different system that could change that! Preventing that from happening is the key political challenge of today. But effective prevention requires accurate reasoning about which components of society can do what. One of the best ways to ensure there are more transfers to El Salvador is to spread the narrative that courts are powerless and nobody can stop the administration from doing it.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by pdabbadabba »

snarf21 wrote: post #206
ujkhsjkdhf234 wrote: post #90

If he actually cared about unbiased media, he would reinstate the Fairness Doctrine which he won't do because that would kill Fox, Newsmax, and the rest of the Republican propaganda outlets.

Agreed. This is the root of the rise of evil in our country. I'm mostly pissed that Democrats were so short sighted to not reinstate it during Clinton or Obama. Now it is too late.

Alas, I'm confident that, if they had reinstated it, it would have been struck down by the Supreme Court by now for violating the First Amendment.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by FredPret »

LPisGood wrote: post #339
next_xibalba wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To wit, during the BLM riots of 2020, NPR published a piece on how looting was a legitimate form of protest. I mark that as the moment they lost both my trust and my attention. A very sad, eye opening moment for me.

That was not the official position of NPR the organization or even an opinion piece by an NPR employee, it was an interview with an author.

This is known as platforming

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by SpicyLemonZest »

alabastervlog wrote: post #161
SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #70

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This was all widely reported, I'm not sure why you're criticizing the news media.

There is no reason at all it shouldn't have been the only thing they'd bring up when talking to or about Trump during the campaign. Instead, they let "oh, yeah, never heard of it" slide.

I don’t agree with the premise. Should the news have refused to talk about his tariff plans or promises of personal retribution so they could reserve the space for Project 2025?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by dboreham »

beardedwizard wrote: post #42
cyberlurker wrote: post #14

Is it unusual for an executive order to claim something like this without any citation or reference? > The CPB fails to abide by these principles to the extent it subsidizes NPR and PBS. > Which viewpoints NPR and PBS promote does not matter. > What does matter is that neither entity presents a fair, accurate, or unbiased portrayal of current events to taxpaying citizens.

I'm a big supporter of NPR but you don't need to look hard to see their progressive bias.

> their progressive bias

Is this what we're calling "truth" now?

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ta1243 »

scarby2 wrote: post #177
great_wubwub wrote: post #132

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> the enablers and puppet masters are already planning and laying groundwork for when Cheeto Jesus drops dead. We've already lost the battle, let's not lose the war. Their success in some way is tied to trump right now. Nobody else seems to captivate his base in the same way, and they've made most of this about a man and less about a movement. So it's entirely possible this dies when he does.

Depends how the next generation of MAGAs works. The republican party is full of them who are backing Trump all the way. The only opposition seem to be bond traders.

The great thing about wannabe dictators is they don't allow the new generation the space to grow and take over, so there's no clear line of succession (Vance doesn't have it yet)

But the democrats seem completely at a loss, and the mid terms are only 18 months away.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by vjvjvjvjghv »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #89
arcbyte wrote: post #30

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I say this as a firm conservative. The courts have so far been outstanding, despite all the inappropriate pressure. I have no doubt they will continue to be. I'm also quite impressed with conservative voters who are speaking out to their conservative representatives. Ultimately though, despite many many calls not to do so, Congress has goven the executive branch unheard of powers. Executive power needs to be reigned…

The funny thing is, that the GOP is not "conservative," in any way, whatsoever. They are extreme. The definition of "conservative" means "not-extreme." It is not just "not-liberal." It means being thoughtful, cautious, sticking with the mainstream, learning from the past, not discarding learned wisdom, etc. Things like anti-abortion, hate-brown-people, put-women-back-in-the-kitchen-or-the-bedroom etc. stuff is often…

Agreed. To me "conservative" means to be cautious and slow/reluctant to change things. The quick dismantling of institutions that's happening right now is the opposite of conservative.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by ujkhsjkdhf234 »

pdabbadabba wrote: post #362
snarf21 wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. This is the root of the rise of evil in our country. I'm mostly pissed that Democrats were so short sighted to not reinstate it during Clinton or Obama. Now it is too late.

Alas, I'm confident that, if they had reinstated it, it would have been struck down by the Supreme Court by now for violating the First Amendment.

The Fairness Doctrine doesn't prevent you from saying anything, it just says for certain topics, you must also present the opposing view.

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Post by tzs »

Teever wrote: post #299
colpabar wrote: post #285

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I don't like that it gets flagged, because there are some insightful conversations out there. The subject is important and the budgets of PBS and NPR pertain to the 'curiosity' guideline that Dang loves so much. What I'd prefer to see is better moderation from users and admins alike to deal with the offending comments but not the entire thread.

I don't see how you can so easily dismiss discussion of P2025's role in this administration as just Reddit stuff.

Around 30 of this administration's cabinet members and agency heads are the authors of the parts of P2025 that covered the subject of the cabinet position they now hold or the agency they now head, and their actions are closely following the plan they laid out in P2025.

Re: Corporation for Public Broadcasting Statement Regarding Executive Order

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Post by HistoryLogs »

mathgeek wrote: post #9
bhouston wrote: post #3

The US is so weird right now. You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. Also arresting and trying to deport people for things that are not clearly crimes (newspaper op-eds, etc) and without due process. Very strange times. Right now I have some faith the…

> You have a President who is ordering the defunding of tons of groups (universities, media, aid, institutes) while not clearly having that authority and often doing so for what he views as ideological crimes. It’s important to remember that while the President issues the orders, there are other actors behind the scenes writing them for him. They have goals that go beyond a single man considering ideological crimes.

I've seen many people draw a comparison between Trump and Hitler (because of course - people compare everybody to Hitler).

But what I don't think people remember is that a guy like Hitler didn't just show up and "make a dictatorship". He was an opportunistic guy who showed up when Germany's democratic, constitutional republic was weakened by a poorly-functioning congress, and most of the actual power was concentrated in the executive branch. When the time came, Hitler wasn't the one who passed the Reichstag Fire Decree allowing him to suspend the freedom of the press and jail his political opposition. That law was passed by president Hindenburg.

Hitler didn't create a dictatorship. He was handed one on a silver platter - by an ailing 85 year old man with too much power.

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