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Post by dylan604 »

cynicalpeace wrote: post #347
dylan604 wrote: post #335

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Is it the phone or the software that you installed on the phone? You're blaming the horse the bandit rode in on rather than saying that the bandit is the issue.

I'm not "blaming" anyone. Not sure how you can have the software without the hardware. Screens are addictive. Why they are addictive is an interesting question- but regardless of the software being used- video games, social media, browsing the web, the fact remains that these activities are all addictive. I suspect it's just because screens are shiny, colorful, interactive objects. It doesn't matter what app you give…

The assumption that everyone has an issue with a device is where you loose me. I rarely look at my phone. I don't have any social apps on it. I only use the phone if I'm away from my keyboard. It is absolutely possible to own a device and not be addicted to it. I use my device for things that are useful, not unhealthy habits. It is not the device's fault you use it for unhealthy habits. Recognizing and admitting the problem is a huge step

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Post by SirMaster »

runjake wrote: post #366
SirMaster wrote: post #341

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Do you not use a case? Even cheap $20 cases have a magsafe ring in them which would make this work with the magsafe charger puck.

MagSafe chargers are Qi/Qi2 compatible. They'll charge without a magnetic ring. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MX6X3LL/A/magsafe-charger...

Well yes of course. But the whole point of the ring is to align them perfectly so the efficiency is high and so you can use the phone without it falling off or losing alignment.

Using a case with the magnet ring in it solves this problem for the 16e without the ring in the phone itself.

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Post by BenjiWiebe »

mdasen wrote: post #351
coldpie wrote: post #276

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The iPhone 13 Mini all by itself sold about the half of the rate of the entire Google Pixel lineup. There is a market for small phones from a reputable manufacturer. Source: Google shipped about 10 million Pixel phones in a year https://9to5google.com/2024/02/22/pixel-2023/ iPhone Mini accounted for about 3% of iPhone sales https://9to5mac.com/2022/04/21/cirp-iphone-13-best-selling-l... iPhones sell about 200 million…

The thing I'd add is that Apple often achieves what it does by doing less. People assume that because Apple makes great things that they can make a lot of different great things. But that's where a lot of other companies falter: they make too many different things to really make a few great things. Small phones are also difficult. Memory, processors, and batteries don't shrink. For an iPhone mini, they're going to be…

If small phones are difficult, why are phones getting larger as battery and semiconductor tech continues to improve?

Advances in tech should allow phones to be smaller than ever for the same capabilities, or more capabilities for the same size than ever before.

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Post by hot_gril »

walterbell wrote: post #354
hot_gril wrote: post #222

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It's funny how iPads are marketed as laptop replacements, but everyone with an iPad has a laptop too. Especially the Apple fans who tell you it's a laptop replacement.

Now that Mac Mini is smaller, it's almost viable as iPad sidecar to run MacOS and Linux VMs. The ultimate dongle, with "I should be a hypervisor" graffiti. Pixel Tablet with GrapheneOS has less limitations and will soon have Linux VMs, but lacks a keyboard travel case, and has been discontinued.

Can also emulate a PC in WASM to run Linux with a huge performance hit.

But I'm not even talking about Linux stuff, just basic use cases. Like a website somehow doesn't work with the iPad/iPhone, even if you forcibly request the desktop version. (YouTube creator studio live streaming is one example, or random airliners' in-flight video sites.) You need to unzip, manipulate, re-zip, and email something. Putting stuff on a USB stick for a print shop. Doing taxes. Running some Mac/Windows-only software.

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Post by enragedcacti »

bayindirh wrote: post #124
kemayo wrote: post #111

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It's probably the same as the 2x zoom in the iPhone 16 line. The 1x pictures are a 48MP sensor that does some pixel-combining to output a 12MP image. The 2x pictures are a crop of 12MP in the center of the sensor, that doesn't do any combining. So it's still "optical", but it's lower-quality than the 1x.

I think it's not "zooming with the sensor", but has a slim lens stack to enable optical 2x zoom. The whole system is also PDAF, so they need the movement anyway.

If it were an optical zoom then it would be able to take 24MP and 48MP shots like it can in 1x mode, but it is limited to 12MP which highly suggests its just a crop.

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Post by paul7986 »

Tagbert wrote: post #250
paul7986 wrote: post #202

Does anyone else long for a new personal device (phone) maker/leader? A real AI phone where if you want you can have a full human like conversation (text, voice & video chat it recognizes gestures & emotions (facial expressions)) with your AI assistant from your lock screen. I use chatGPT while driving in the car to get things done & as a knowledge base, but I have to open the app to use it (not safe when driving). I…

You will likely need to wait for iOS 19 when they transplant an LLM into Siri for that kind interaction. Even then I’m not certain that Apple will go that direction.

Hopefully Open AI and Microsoft could release a true AI phone one that is like the movie H.E.R. where it does everything for you .. just like talking to a human via text, voice & video chat but ur human AI assistant. It interfaces with AI Agents of businesses, your friends, families and co-workers agents to get things scheduled, done, your knowledgebase on all things, etc for you.

Though H.E.R. without falling in love with it.

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Post by biztos »

jasode wrote: post #104
new_vienna wrote: post #42

It seems that this will cannibalize iPhone 16 sales - it's $200 cheaper, same form factor and internals, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. However, the price makes for a much more appealing upgrade for anyone who has an older iPhone

>, with the only difference being the camera, which if you care about you go for the Pro model. Some people may care a little extra for an ultrawide lens and spending more for the cheaper iPhone 16 with 2 lenses of regular + ultrawide is enough for that. Don't have to get the more expensive Pro model. The Pro model adds a 3rd lens for optical "true" telephoto instead of digitized "fake" telephoto and increases the re…

According to the Compare site[0] it does not have macro mode.

16 Pro: 48MP macro photography

16: Macro photography

16e: —

[0]: https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

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Post by wtallis »

dagmx wrote: post #256
ipdashc wrote: post #146

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> I’m also interested to see if it enables cellular in laptops Are WWAN cards not a thing already? I've never looked much into them at all, but they do seem to exist, at least (and seem to be around $20-$50 and plug into M.2 slots)

Many laptops, including MacBooks, do not have M.2 expansion available.

And when laptops do have a spare M.2 slot it's usually intended for an SSD only and is not the right kind of M.2 slot for a cellular (or WiFi) card. And of course, you'd need antennas. So the whole laptop needs to be designed around accommodating cellular connectivity, with significant changes to the internal layout.

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Post by GeekyBear »

cptskippy wrote: post #358
GeekyBear wrote: post #164

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> No MagSafe, only Qi. Qi2 is based on Magsafe. https://www.theverge.com/2023/1/3/23538131/qi2-wireless-char...

> Qi2 is based on Magsafe. That's an insult to all of the engineering that went into Qi. The Magsafe specification was an attempt to create the new Lightning connector ecosystem that backfired spectacularly and blew up in Apple's face. It's nothing more than magnets and DRM layered on top of a regular Qi charger. Naturally Apple used the DRM to limit the charging speeds of their phones when paired with regular Qi cha…

From the article linked above:

> With the blessing of competitors, Apple is about to change the Qi wireless standard itself. It’s contributing to a new version of Qi that works much like MagSafe — magnets, authentication, and all.

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Post by enragedcacti »

frankus wrote: post #360
wpm wrote: post #82

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Yup, sad news. Anyone who disagrees should try teaching an older relative with less than youthful fine motor control how to use a FaceID equipped iPhone.

I've had the opposite problem: both of my parents' (in their 80s) fingerprints have faded to the point that Touch ID no longer works reliably.

That is really interesting to me. I admittedly haven't played with it in a while but on previous Android phones I've had basically any patch of skin would register and work okay with the sensor. I know because I used to rock climb a lot which tears up fingerprints so I would register things like the backside of my index finger so I could unlock the phone while it sits on a table. It was definitely finickier than a proper fingerprint but preferable to retraining it every couple of days.
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