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Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by bongoman42 »

potato3732842 wrote: post #153
noisy_boy wrote: post #149

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> I'm against broad brush stroke categorization about how different countries behave. Ok - pick any conservative country (say India or Indonesia). Now tell me that the chances of an average Indonesian woman wearing a bikini to a beach (pretty normal in most Western countries) is same as an average French woman? Or for a less gender-charged example, chances of an average Saudi eating Pork vs an average American. Note…

>Ok - pick any conservative country (say India or Indonesia). Now tell me that the chances of an average Indonesian woman wearing a bikini to a beach (pretty normal in most Western countries) is same as an average French woman? The strongest predictor for both the French and the Indonesian is almost certainly going to be the individuals physique and and the second is probably going to be the country and prevailing cu…

This is so wrong that it I don't even know where to start countering it. The average Indian woman will not ever wear a bikini at all, most wouldn't even wear one in a women only swimming pool let alone a mixed beach.

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by kodt »

gretch wrote: post #292
kodt wrote: post #276

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So if your dog required medication, you would never hide the pill in peanut butter for example?

It's not a deception, in the same way that a chicken nugget is not chicken hidden inside of breading. It simply is pill with peanut butter

I think you would feel deceived if given a peanut butter sandwich, and after eating it someone revealed they had mixed powder from a pill into it.

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by kodt »

doctoboggan wrote: post #334
kodt wrote: post #310

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Exactly my point. Deception may be necessary at times.

Would it make you feel better if you told your dog there was a pill in the peanut butter? I don't think that would stop them from eating it.

No, because I don't feel the deception is bad in this case. It is a good deception.

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by gretch »

kodt wrote: post #372
gretch wrote: post #292

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It's not a deception, in the same way that a chicken nugget is not chicken hidden inside of breading. It simply is pill with peanut butter

I think you would feel deceived if given a peanut butter sandwich, and after eating it someone revealed they had mixed powder from a pill into it.

Reread your sentence and look how much stuff you made up about 1) a scenario that’s completely fictional and 2) how I, a person you never met would react to it

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by kodt »

gretch wrote: post #374
kodt wrote: post #372

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I think you would feel deceived if given a peanut butter sandwich, and after eating it someone revealed they had mixed powder from a pill into it.

Reread your sentence and look how much stuff you made up about 1) a scenario that’s completely fictional and 2) how I, a person you never met would react to it

I said I thought you would feel a certain way in that situation. Do you disagree?

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by gretch »

kodt wrote: post #375
gretch wrote: post #374

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Reread your sentence and look how much stuff you made up about 1) a scenario that’s completely fictional and 2) how I, a person you never met would react to it

I said I thought you would feel a certain way in that situation. Do you disagree?

Yes absolutely and completely.

Here’s what would actually happen if this fictional scenario did occur:

If someone hands me something to consume, no matter how much I trust them, I would ask “cool thanks, what’s in the sandwich?”

Now you, a non-deceiver, would say “peanut butter and pharmaceuticals”. And I would say “oh, I’m not sure I want that, but thanks for being honest”

I hope you see how this analogy does not map to dogs.

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by kodt »

gretch wrote: post #376
kodt wrote: post #375

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I said I thought you would feel a certain way in that situation. Do you disagree?

Yes absolutely and completely. Here’s what would actually happen if this fictional scenario did occur: If someone hands me something to consume, no matter how much I trust them, I would ask “cool thanks, what’s in the sandwich?” Now you, a non-deceiver, would say “peanut butter and pharmaceuticals”. And I would say “oh, I’m not sure I want that, but thanks for being honest” I hope you see how this analogy does not ma…

You have avoided answering by changing the scenario. Deception was implied. I'll take that as my assumption being correct and you were simply too proud to admit it.

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by gretch »

kodt wrote: post #373
doctoboggan wrote: post #334

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Would it make you feel better if you told your dog there was a pill in the peanut butter? I don't think that would stop them from eating it.

No, because I don't feel the deception is bad in this case. It is a good deception.

If I showed my dog the pill, and then showed my dog the peanut butter, and then showed my dog the act of me putting peanut butter on the pill before giving him this package, where does the deception lie in this sequence of events?

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by kodt »

gretch wrote: post #378
kodt wrote: post #373

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No, because I don't feel the deception is bad in this case. It is a good deception.

If I showed my dog the pill, and then showed my dog the peanut butter, and then showed my dog the act of me putting peanut butter on the pill before giving him this package, where does the deception lie in this sequence of events?

If the dog was familiar with pills and already had an aversion to them, which is typically the case when people resort to using peanut butter, it is possible the dog would be suspicious and just try to lick the peanut butter and avoid the pill itself. Or just avoid it altogether. Typically you would not show your dog the pill going in the peanut butter.

It would not be a deception in the scenario you presented, but it also might not be effective in getting the dog to swallow the pill.

Re: Why young parents should focus on building trust with their kids

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Post by dyauspitr »

tayo42 wrote: post #270
dyauspitr wrote: post #8

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Marshmallows, twizzlers, any of those corner store “cakes” like twinkies, the McRib, pop tarts etc. are absolutely disgusting hyped things I don’t understand. It’s like they manage to take sugar that most people like and make it inedible.

Twizzlers are kind of ehh But hostess snacks you don't like? Didn't that was possible. Lol Or a poptart right out of the toaster?

Very artificial tasting, I feel like I can taste the chemicals.
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