I find it barbaric most countries don't give citizens freedom of choice over this most fundamental certainty.
Assisted dying now accounts for one in 20 Canada deaths
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#372"For the first time, the report delved into race and ethnic data of those who died by euthanasia. Around 96% of recipients identified as white people, who account for about 70% of Canada's population. It is unclear what caused this disparity." Any good hypothesis about this?
People of color are more religious and usually treat MAiD program as suicide over here.
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#373Earlier quoted context omitted.
This! People feel like they cannot live alone or they cannot want that someone else be caused hardship (time or money) because of their difficulty. I feel like I will get downvoted to oblivion just because people vehemently disagree, but THIS CANNOT be the meaning and choice behind death. It is simply immature, arrogant, and selfish. But more plainly, it is suicidal / self-relentment.
Let's loop back around on this comment when you're in your 80s, alone, and dying a slow death.
"The only moral assisted suicide is my own assisted suicide".
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> Healthcare in Canada is essentially not available.
I'm sorry, but it's not that black and white. Given how much the healthcare system has done for my family (for all the happy and sad things) over here basically for free, making such blanket statements is very disingenuous.
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#375My grandma always told me when she couldn’t go on her walks anymore she didn’t consider life worth living. When she got dementia she was placed in a closed hospice, to “protect her”. Now she only walks when I visit, and I only see a shell of the woman she was. Anecdotal of course, but why do people think it’s an ethics question when society is individualistic as can be? There is no choice in being born, why don’t we…
To my mind the main obstacle is kind of orthogonal: how do you protect the people who don't want to go, being pressured or manipulated. I agree that if someone is really, independently and committedly deciding to go, you shouldn't stop them. But how do you express that test in a bureaucratic, legalistic framework? In a friend's family, there was a big rift as one family member in direct line of inheritance was accuse…
The much more common case seems to be families forcing treatment, effectively just prolonging the pain. People don't exactly easily come to grips with their parents dying. Some people never do.
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#376I find it overall very unnerving how quiet this is and how the Canadian press never really finds issues with this. I often saw Japanese media moving lock-step with the police (in terms of vocabulary to use for certain crimes, how to report certain issues), and thought it was creepy as hell. However, the complete lack of questioning of the purpose behind a sudden legalization of euthanasia (in a country with public he…
Do you know anyone who took the MAiD way out? Because once you know someone going through the pain, it changes one's perspective. I would never want my loved one, nor me to go through the agony of hell, if there's a more humane way of going through this experience.
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#377My Canadian parents are in their 80's so naturally a lot of their friends of the same age are dying. And two of them have been via MAID. In one case, which was surprising to me, a man who had survived cancer - he was not terminal but certainly wasn't getting any better - elected to die via MAID after his wife died. She passed, he called his doctor and less than a week later he was also dead. He got a chance to visit…
In your first example, I suspect there was probably other things present you weren't made aware of. Currently the requirements in Canada include (only copy those relevant to your example). -have a serious and incurable illness, disease or disability (excluding a mental illness until March 17, 2027) -be in an advanced state of irreversible decline in capability -have enduring and intolerable physical or psychological…
It sounds like the last one is the get out of jail free card.
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#378Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you need from grandma, who is in constant pain and desires to die?
The touch, the voice, the eyes of love, the concern, the stories, the heart, the smile, ... shall I go on?
Grandma doesn’t want to share those stories because it hurts to talk and she can’t see well and just generally she’s in a constant bad mood because her life sucks.
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#379IMO, the key quote: > The vast majority – around 96% - had a death deemed "reasonably foreseeable", due to severe medical conditions such as cancer.
I'm wondering who the 4% are whose death was not reasonably foreseeable. What exactly are their secrets to eternal life?
Specific cause is foreseeable
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#380Earlier quoted context omitted.
What you’re hitting on is the inescapable truth that there are problems government institutions can’t solve.
Surely you can see that we could apply that principle to either pro- or anti-euthanasia arguments? Either way, the government is profoundly involved. Either the government is in the business of telling us we cannot end our own lives in humane and medically-assisted ways, and that medically assisted deaths are equivalent to murder with all of the attendant legal issues. Or they are in the business of enforcing rules a…
It’s the government’s choice whether they allocate resources to investigate and prosecute “suspicious” deaths of terminal patients.
Deciding as a matter of policy, not law, “No, we don’t do that outside of extraordinary circumstances” is something a government institution can do.