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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by whalesalad »

_0xdd wrote: post #194
whalesalad wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always take a full disk snapshot before full upgrades like this (boot into recovery and this is straightforward with a usb disk, or use carbon copy cloner) but yep updates in the Apple eco system are (knock on wood) very painless. Back in the day before things like homebrew it was far worse... the days of macports and mod_python to run your Django app are fortunately behind us.

MacPorts has a pretty slick migration feature now. Not sure about Django, but this is the smoothest migration I've experienced with MacPorts in over 15+ years.

Times have changed completely since... 2006-2007 when this was relevant. If you are still using mod_python in 2024 please seek a therapist specializing in trauma.

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Post by mmastrac »

quotemstr wrote: post #287

Can we finally call poll(2) instead of select(2) on a pty? https://nathancraddock.com/blog/macos-dev-tty-polling/ Apple is doing a lot of great things in systems fundamentals, but I wish they'd take some time to clean up warts in their POSIX implementation.

Still waiting on `pipe2` as well!

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Post by slimebot80 »

jdprgm wrote: post #331

Both iOS and macOS seem to have a strange number of their updates "coming later" and that is not even including Apple Intelligence which they really made the cornerstone of the updates in initial marketing. Very bizarre.

Happened has you with Universal Control.

I'm ok with this. I'd rather they get the core right rather than scrambling to deliver all these nice-to-haves in time, and botching it up.

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Post by meindnoch »

egypturnash wrote: post #305

Best new feature: Passwords are a separate app again instead of being a shitty, illegible panel in the inexplicably-unresizable, cramped, tiny-text hell of the iOSified system prefs. Maybe in a couple more major versions we'll have a re-re-designed system prefs app that actually looks like a desktop app again!

>Maybe in a couple more major versions we'll have a re-re-designed system prefs app that actually looks like a desktop app again!

And it will only take a few dozen seconds to load! Can't wait!

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by slimebot80 »

aetherspawn wrote: post #260

Well, 1Password must be feeling pretty sour about how Apple Passwords app is a complete 1:1 clone. They don’t do licenses, credit cards or ssh keys yet so we probably won’t switch… yet

Well I've decided not to renew 1password. I have very basic use cases, and am happing to stay within Apple eco system. So, to me, 1password is just too much money.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by thund »

nice, but still many things to be improved:

- iphone mirroring keeps going into "paused" mode, showing a "resume" button

- iphone mirroring doesn't unblock apps that need face Id, e.g. whatsapp says "passcode required" without prompting for some form of auth (auto auth is enabled, but no luck)

- iphone mirroring is not really "mirroring": one cannot use both app and phone at the same time, and see what is going on.

- window tiling shortcut requires dragging a window first, Rectangle is much more flexible ie the window only need to be active

- UX for security got worse with "ask every month". Apple doesn't trust us knowing what we're doing, ie there should be a "trust forever" somewhere if I want to

- tagging people in Photos is still extremely buggy

- sequoia is hard to spell (when googling for info) (just me? lol)

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by Pesthuf »

simonask wrote: post #345
Pesthuf wrote: post #301

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One huge step closer to iOS. Damn it. I actually liked macOS but these changes are terrible for everyone but the most basic users.

Really? This is _huge_ to you? How many unsigned apps are you downloading and running? This is one of those features where the benefits seem to very obviously outweigh the drawbacks. 99.9% of users just aren't running unsigned software, so the moment that happens, it is most certainly malware. If you're developing software yourself, this isn't an issue either, since all the relevant toolchains, debuggers, etc., work…

Quite a lot apparently considering how often I have to bypass gatekeeper.

I don't really see how the average user is positively affected by these changes - it's not like they will accidentally open terminal and enter random strings infinite monkey theorem style until they hit sudo spctl –master-disable. Ctrl-click was at least possible to stumble over, but I see no good reason not to at least provide a .plist setting to re-enable that behavior. Except to bully more devs into getting signing certs.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by gcr »

sunny_sigara wrote: post #209

Most annoying problems so far.. 1. Screen-recording permission once every week ? 2. No more sudo spctl —master-disable. Alternative way is bit complicated. 2. No more control+ click to bypass gatekeeper. 3. Why tcutil reset Accessibility not working for a specific app? It works for “All” . 4. Script to convert NSURL node ref url to posix url not working. 5. Normal usb Mouse pointer acceleration is not smooth. May be…

How do you bypass gatekeeper now?

How often do you have to re-authenticate your existing binaries?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Post by threecheese »

lostmsu wrote: post #367
iknowstuff wrote: post #365

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the permission for screen access is only for apps that failed to start using the new API where the OS lets the user select a window/screen they want to share.

Can I do it once and for all, or will I have to do it every time? I bet I know the answer. Did this conveniently break Rewind AI?

Not sure if it is broken, but I took the opportunity when upgrading today to say No and just disable it. The product is EOL anyway, there are a few upstarts in the open source world, and I am hoping the best for Apples on-device SLMs (or oss ones) mooting the requirement for OpenAI.
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