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Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Both iOS and macOS seem to have a strange number of their updates "coming later" and that is not even including Apple Intelligence which they really made the cornerstone of the updates in initial marketing. Very bizarre.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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> The right-click/control-click option for easily opening unsigned apps is no longer available. Users who want to open unsigned software will now need to go the long way around to do it: first, try to launch the app and dismiss the dialog box telling you that it can't be opened. Then, open Settings, go to the Privacy & Security screen, scroll all the way to the bottom to get to the Security section, and click the Ope…

at least it's still possible (and maybe more accessible) if not a bit more inconvenient. the ctrl-click thing was kinda a hidden feature.

lets stop pretending this is anything other than trying to make apps that don't pay $100 a year feel scary.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Apple locking down the OS even more by making Gatekeeper harder to bypass makes me want to skip this version for as long as possible. The screen recording permission thing also doesn't help since I'm using Ice ( https://github.com/jordanbaird/Ice ) because somehow Apple still can't Sherlock this feature.

The way it's even implemented now is like the nightmare realized from everything Richard Stallman warned about for decades. Especially for non-technical users, they've practically implemented a system where Apple decides what software you are and aren't allowed to run on your own computer. They can muddy the issue by claiming it's for safety/security but I don't buy it. They could have made the override still clear b…

Especially for non-technical users, they've practically implemented a system where Apple decides what software you are and aren't allowed to run on your own computer.

For non-technical users the choice is simple: either Apple decides what is allowed to run on their computer or cybercriminals do. After years of getting burned, non-technical users made their choice. I think it was the right one but the jury's still out for the future.

Perhaps one day these users will get squeezed out of computing entirely. That will be a terrible shame. The same thing is playing out with everything else though. Look at cars and household appliances.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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The way it's even implemented now is like the nightmare realized from everything Richard Stallman warned about for decades. Especially for non-technical users, they've practically implemented a system where Apple decides what software you are and aren't allowed to run on your own computer. They can muddy the issue by claiming it's for safety/security but I don't buy it. They could have made the override still clear b…

Anything you compile on your own system you can run. This only affects downloaded binaries.

Yes, so we should move to a source-based package manager and build system, like FreeBSD ports.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Most annoying problems so far.. 1. Screen-recording permission once every week ? 2. No more sudo spctl —master-disable. Alternative way is bit complicated. 2. No more control+ click to bypass gatekeeper. 3. Why tcutil reset Accessibility not working for a specific app? It works for “All” . 4. Script to convert NSURL node ref url to posix url not working. 5. Normal usb Mouse pointer acceleration is not smooth. May be…

Is there some way to get things like strace working? Recently it's got weird and strange with the OS protecting me from myself. Or content makers from me breaking their DRM. Or something.

Some app tries to open a file and fails. Doesn't tell me what the file name is. I just want to see the open() call.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Window tiling! If you drag a single window to the top does it maximize, and unmaximize when you drag it away? That's been my most wanted feature in macOS since forever (yes I have tried the third party ones). I don't really care about tiling multiple windows, but I've always hated the macOS full screen behavior, and before that the old green button behavior, so an alternative that finally works well (the way Windows…

Hm, I've been really happy with Rectangle ( https://rectangleapp.com ) and its shortcuts have become second nature to me, but if the native version is equally keyboard friendly I might give it a go. (btw, have you tried Rectangle and if so - what didn't you like?) (Not affiliated with it, just a happy user)

Have you figured out the keyboard shortcuts for the native version? I only see the Option + drag window "shortcut".

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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post #248

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> No more control+ click to bypass gatekeeper Can someone expand on this? How do you run software that isn't code signed?

> The right-click/control-click option for easily opening unsigned apps is no longer available. Users who want to open unsigned software will now need to go the long way around to do it: first, try to launch the app and dismiss the dialog box telling you that it can't be opened. Then, open Settings, go to the Privacy & Security screen, scroll all the way to the bottom to get to the Security section, and click the Ope…

Same nightmarish UI path as installing an app store on an iPhone.

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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It's DMA. Certainly part of it is punitive, but it makes sense, too - building and especially supporting interoperability for these protocols is a burden that they can avoid by not shipping features to the EU. They're free to change the key exchange, APIs, wire format, etc. without having to deal with documentation, key issuance, etc. outside of their walls. And, being forced to open up Screen Mirroring would reduce…

> supporting interoperability for these protocols is a burden Also an unprecedented and unacceptable privacy and security risk. You would be allowing third parties the ability to continuously record your iPhone's screen. Which includes websites you browse, apps you open, health information, text messages etc. And the Mac is so much open that you could do this, have a local model to transcribe it and ship it to a remo…

>You would be allowing third parties the ability to continuously record your iPhone's screen

Apple is first-party to the device, but third-party to me, the user. Why are they more trustworthy than a free open-source tool? Who the hell are they to tell me who I can and cannot trust?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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Most annoying problems so far.. 1. Screen-recording permission once every week ? 2. No more sudo spctl —master-disable. Alternative way is bit complicated. 2. No more control+ click to bypass gatekeeper. 3. Why tcutil reset Accessibility not working for a specific app? It works for “All” . 4. Script to convert NSURL node ref url to posix url not working. 5. Normal usb Mouse pointer acceleration is not smooth. May be…

> 1. Screen-recording permission once every week ? Every month. (Which is still annoying, but not the raw level of frustration that weekly would be.)

Do you still have to quit and restart the entire application after you give the permission? Holy shit mac users are gonna become a meme in meetings.

MacOS is turning into quite the poo log lately. I respect that Apple has every right to completely destroy the legacy of the Macintosh, but they are slow playing it so that it's just a little bit better than the alternatives. The end result is my life gets just a little bit more difficult with every release.

I feel like the freaking frog on the stove while the water slowly heats up. When is it time to jump out?

Re: macOS Sequoia is available today

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If it's so clear then tell us what they need to do. Because the DMA was designed not to be specific about what companies are required to do to be in compliance.

Publish the protocol docs. That's literally all that's required from them. Actually they don't even need to - they can just promise not to sue anyone who reverse-engineers it and publishes a commercial client. That's how adversarial interoperability worked for decades (and gave free software the ability to interoperate with proprietary formats, see LibreOffice for example) before abusing the DMCA and/or threatening l…

Can you articulate where in the DMA where it says that all Apple has to do "is promise not to sue anyone" to be in compliance. Or where it talks about protocol publication.

Hint: it doesn't.

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