Teens inundated with phone prompts day and night, research finds

Post by blacksmith_tb » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 2:49 PM UTC

saiya-jin wrote: post #282

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #272

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> Society’s revealed preference is McDonald’s Without government restrictions, is society's revealed preference also widespread use of hard drugs? Ever since opium wars, unadressed drug use was a problem that required active internevtion.

Active interventions gave us war on drugs with hundreds of thousands of civilians dead (or rather millions if you count things like oxycontin -> fentanyl and other similar side effects), tens if not hundreds of millions of lives fucked up, and seeing a superpower losing a war with... some chemicals. No thank you

Post by lazide » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 2:53 PM UTC

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There's no way to flag spam / marketing. Uber for example occasionally sends marketing. But you can't really disable notifications. Instead, they (large companies) should just pay x cent per notification to Apple (not the user, because that would be seen as credit, eliminating the purpose)

So long as spam legislation applies to these notifications¹, you don’t need to: in theory you just report it to the relevant enforcement body, and they get fined heavily until they do something about it (which, under most sets of spam legislation, will start by requiring that these sorts of messages be opt-in only). —⁂— ¹ I vaguely recall hearing that EU spam legislation would apply to notifications, but I may be wro…

Post by hotnfresh » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 3:28 PM UTC

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jacquesm wrote: post #5

Everybody is. I'm strongly of the opinion that all this 'needy tech' is a net negative and I try hard to keep it out of my life. But some of it, mostly associated with my kids schooling, is very hard to avoid. 10 emails per week about some school portal with 'an important message' (which you need to separately logged into, of course the message is so important that it can't be entrusted to mere email, even though the…

I just checked and there are 16 messages from one school in the last 7 days. The other school have managed 11. Those are emails, containing PDFs, containing important dates, if you can find them.

Post by bluecheese452 » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 3:58 PM UTC

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This. It’s not even worth playing the one strike game anymore, waste of time.

Yep, I've mostly given up on the one strike rule and gone to a "don't install any phone app unless absolutely necessary" rule. Much of the time I can avoid the app by either using their web site, or just forgoing whatever functionality the app provides. Airline apps, which can be useful during a trip, get installed when the trip begins and uninstalled as soon as the trip is over.

Post by chrismorgan » Mon, Oct 02, 2023, 4:22 PM UTC

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chrismorgan wrote: post #352

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So long as spam legislation applies to these notifications¹, you don’t need to: in theory you just report it to the relevant enforcement body, and they get fined heavily until they do something about it (which, under most sets of spam legislation, will start by requiring that these sorts of messages be opt-in only). —⁂— ¹ I vaguely recall hearing that EU spam legislation would apply to notifications, but I may be wro…

Ho man. Works so well for email and phone calls huh? Maybe (maybe!) large players will pay attention as they have a lot to lose and aren’t able to ‘dodge’ well. But there are millions of fly by night scam operations that come and go. Only real solution here is, like email, user side filtering and infrastructure level black holeing of offenders.