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Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by messe » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 9:48 PM UTC

unreal37 wrote: post #297

isykt wrote: post #263

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What happened when you told them, “I’m all set without a demo, please just ring me up ?” Did they refuse?

Near me, they keep the products locked up in the back room, and the person who you talk to on the floor often doesn't have direct access and needs to find the person who has access to get them the product. It makes sense. There's not a pile of 1000 Macbooks on a pallet back there. It's locked up in a cage, and they go in and get one at a time. But makes for a slow shopping experience.

That’s not an answer to the question posed.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by robocat » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 9:49 PM UTC

ghaff wrote: post #337

bookofjoe wrote: post #331

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First Macintosh cost $7,400 in today's dollars when introduced after "Big Brother" Super Bowl ad in 1984

Though most “real” computers were quite expensive by todays standards at the time. The editor in chief of PC Magazine coined Machrones Law—the computer you want always costs $5000 dollars and that I held pretty well for a long time.

There's still a similar pattern in sports - the initial entry-level outlay for a variety of individual sports is $x.

And the enthusiast price is similar across very different sports.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by dagmx » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 9:51 PM UTC

Jarmsy wrote: post #182

BoppreH wrote: post #175

I'm very confused by Apple's strategy. As an owner of the original HTC Vive headset, its word-of-mouth power was off the charts. It was a blast at parties, and many of my friends bought their own $700+ devices after trying it. Here's what won them over: - Being able to try it themselves with little preparation ("put this on your head, tighten it here, and click these buttons on the controller"). You could even use it…

All I've seen so far suggests they're almost entirely focused on virtual 2d screens floating in 3d space, and not other virtual 3d objects at all.

They had 3D objects on showcase in the developer tools Press release

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/developer-tools-to-cr...

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by amelius » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 9:54 PM UTC

Remember folks, it is your right as a consumer to try it and return it if you don't like it.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by konschubert » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 9:56 PM UTC

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #347

vtbassmatt wrote: post #327

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This was exactly my experience trying to buy an Apple Watch from the Apple Store just before the pandemic. I had done all the research ahead of time and knew exactly what I needed. “Do you have an appointment?” No. “Oh, it’ll be about 45 minutes before someone can help you.” But I know what I want and just need you to ring me up. “I’m sorry, 45 minutes.” Hands down the strangest retail interaction I’ve ever had. Frus…

> “Do you have an appointment?” No. “Oh, it’ll be about 45 minutes before someone can help you.” Ah, yes, the Ferrari customer experience. You need to be selected by the manufacturer to be allowed to buy their product. It makes the product feel rare and exclusive, and the customer feel "special", when it's a consumer product made by the same Chinese sweatshop workers that make your other e-waste. Obligatory Futurama…

No, it’s just bad service, cargo culting the Steve Jobs Store move

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by WastingMyTime89 » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 9:57 PM UTC

evandale wrote: post #222

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #189

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> The Moto 360 was out before the Apple watch. And it was seen as a toy for geeks and software developers who think t-shirts are an acceptable office attire despite being the most watch-like of the smartwatches. I would never have gone to the office wearing a moto360. People would have given me funny looks all day. Meanwhile you can wear an Apple Watch with your suit and everyone finds that acceptable.

> And it was seen as a toy for geeks and software developers who think t-shirts are an acceptable office attire despite being the most watch-like of the smartwatches. Source please! That's not how I remember the release, I recall it was very well recieved and sold out everywhere with the battery life being the biggest complaint. > I would never have gone to the office wearing a moto360. People would have given me fun…

> I doubt you'll find a source, this entire paragraph is you projecting your own insecurities onto everyone else.

Sometimes I wonder if I live in the same world than some of the commenters here.

Here is The Verge review of the Moto360: [https://www.theverge.com/2014/9/5/6108947/moto-360-review]. A few selected quotes by me: “It’s designed to prove that smartwatches don’t have to be ugly.”, “It’s not a gadget, it’s a watch”, “At 11.5mm, it’s a little thick”, “ Everything before it was a screen on your wrist”. And that’s the Verge being incredibly nice with the 360. Truth is it was very much still seen as a tacky piece of technology bolted to your wrist.

It took me two minutes to find by the way because this kind of reviews were literally everywhere in the years leading to the release of the Apple Watch.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by ghaff » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 9:58 PM UTC

devilbunny wrote: post #354

graypegg wrote: post #348

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This is closer to my experience around late 2019. (Toronto Ontario Canada, at the time.) Went in, saw someone on staff fixing up a display unit, asked if I could buy an S5 apple watch, he asked if I had any questions, I said none, tapped card on the mobile POS thing, and then in maybe 10 minutes, someone else came out, apologized for the wait, and handed me my box. It's possible it's changed over covid though. Makes…

Lack of foot traffic was their choice. Apple stores were far more picky about COVID than the local norm. You had to show an appointment or a "ready for pickup" email to be allowed into the store. And that was early 2021, when I was fully vaccinated (and had the card to prove it).

I picked up a couple of things during Covid to save on sales tax. Couldn’t even enter the store.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by seanthemon » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 9:59 PM UTC

kreitje wrote: post #281

hghid wrote: post #197

Slightly tangential rant, but is anybody else becoming frustrated with the process of buying Apple products in Apple stores? For me, it started with the Apple Watch - I knew which one I wanted and was ready just to head down and buy one, but I was forced to sit through an entire "fitting" with patronising explanation on how to use the knob on the the side. Recently, I wanted to buy a new Phone. Again, I knew the one…

A few years back I bought a MBP online with the pickup option. I picked it up, declined their assistance setting it up and went about my day. I get home later that day, start to set it up and it’s locked to employees of a bank in Canada. Live support is no help so I take it back, only to find out the serial number did not match that on the box. They had their security guard quietly come stand near me until they figur…

Lesson learned: next time, scam them

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by hospitalJail » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 10:06 PM UTC

georgespencer wrote: post #360

hospitalJail wrote: post #273

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This is some blatant rhetoric. I cannot help but to call this out when I see it. > rank among the leading products in their categories by nearly any measure, from consumer satisfaction to performance benchmarks. When you say it generically like this, it has no meaning. Among? Top 50% You could say this about any company. Its marketing jargon from the best in the world at marketing. This is no different than when they…

> When you say it generically like this, it has no meaning. Among? Top 50% Here are two measures for you: 1) look at the last ten years of Consumer Reports smartphone rankings. How often is the latest iPhone ranked in the top 3? 2) look at the single core performance, battery life, and screen quality of the original 13" M1 MacBook Air. Now find me a laptop with commensurate performance at the same price point from th…

Clearly bad faith and incivility, calling a MBA marketing class high school level just because it doesn't fit your world view.

You share links to random websites that fit your narrative. Its dangerous to listen to your opinion, you might get mureded like jamal khashoggi with a pegasus hack. Or maybe it will be mere nudes like Jeff Bezos. Has anyone gotten hacked with Pegasus on Android? I couldn't find any examples.

Your identity is wrapped up in Apple products, its scary what they can do to a human brain.

Re: Apple plans a slow, appointment-only rollout of Vision Pro

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Post by ghaff » Sun, Jul 09, 2023, 10:07 PM UTC

soligern wrote: post #217

BoppreH wrote: post #175

I'm very confused by Apple's strategy. As an owner of the original HTC Vive headset, its word-of-mouth power was off the charts. It was a blast at parties, and many of my friends bought their own $700+ devices after trying it. Here's what won them over: - Being able to try it themselves with little preparation ("put this on your head, tighten it here, and click these buttons on the controller"). You could even use it…

It’s like getting a pair of glasses. They’re customized to your eyes and fit to your face.

One area of friction that hasn’t been mentioned but is out of Apples control is that in some states like MA prescription eyewear requires a current, within one year, prescription.