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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by probably_wrong »

activiation wrote: post #298
racl101 wrote: post #174

Yeah, I'm out. I'm not using Reddit on its own app nor the browser. The app is huge and clunky. The browser is turtle slow. Neither gives me the granularity that Apollo gives me. The swipe controls are slick and so are the filters. If I can't consume it with Apollo then it ain't worth it to me. And I already paid for the app. I refuse to pay more for something that is not a necessity. Apollo would have to become a su…

Old.reddit.com isn't too bad

My prediction as a former i.reddit.com user is: don't get too attached.

old.reddit is showing the same issues that i.reddit had, such as redirecting you to "regular" reddit if you click on a title instead of the comments. I think old.reddit will keep accumulating small papercuts like these until enough users give up, at which point it will be shut down without recourse. Reddit can't do this right now because some moderation features don't work well outside of old.reddit, but the fact that everything outside the "official" website is being degraded or shut down should give you pause.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by tangus »

blowski wrote: post #193
PNewling wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried using the 'old' reddit? Replacing 'www.' with 'old.' will move you over to the old style of reddit and will keep you there when clicking through links. https://old.reddit.com/r/all/

They’ve got rid of the alternative mobile UI (I.reddit.com). And a lot of links from old.reddit.com redirect to the main site.

Try this: https://old.reddit.com/r/all/.i

Unfortunately it doesn't keep across links.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by lxchase »

Late to the party and this may get buried, but wanted to add a contextual POV. I'm an Apollo user, and I am also someone who was Reddit's earliest enterprise advertisers. As in, the campaigns I've green lit are perhaps still in their advertising media decks as case studies.

Reddit for the past few years have been changing the UX to benefit their revenue streams. Visit any reddit thread on a mobile browser, and get a nag to download the official app. Their app is less likely to be blocked by ad blockers, has advertising SDKs, and can link advertising parameters.

I believe certain threads need you to login. It is also in their best interest to find opportunities for you to login to again link browse behavior. Forgot to mention, the app also allows a logged in state to persist easier than browser.

TL;DR All of Reddit's UX decisions have been to grow their revenue stream.

Do they have the right to do so? Of course. Does it suck for this audience in particular, probably. In my opinion, they will lose their early adopters and perhaps some power users. Is that a risk they are taking? Clearly.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by wnevets »

If Reddit wants to Digg itself, so be it. If I can't use my favorite 3rd party app my usage will drop like a rock. Its current usefulness probably means my usage won't disappear completely like twitter but it will be severely reduced. I can't imagine I'm the only reddit user who feels this way.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by leros »

danijelb wrote: post #327

The web went in the wrong direction when we abandoned the initial concepts of user agents, which was that the browser has the ultimate choice of what to render and how. That concept, transferred to today's world of apps would simply mean that any client like Apollo is essentially a browser locked on Reddit's website, parsing HTML (which has the role of an API) and rendering the content in a native interface. As long…

Seems like you could still a meta UI that drives the underlying SPA in a hidden browser but it would be a pain. Maybe a framework for that will be built one day

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by flenserboy »

All part of the process of TVifying the internet. It is considered dangerous for people to be able to communicate, to speak their minds about products and politicians, and the power of commercial interests combined with government is speeding this degradation along.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by bri3d »

martin8412 wrote: post #47
RhodesianHunter wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit has seemed rudderless for a long time. Their ads platform is damned near useless compared to their competitors. It's a wonder they have any revenue at all. Their moderation is wildly broken, frequently leading to blanket account bans of anyone participating in a thread close to content deemed inappropriate.

A lot of subreddits blanket ban you if you've posted in other subreddits that the mods don't like.

This is has always been an interesting aspect of Reddit.

On the one hand, this is fine: Reddit is supposed to be a collection of independently moderated sub-communities with their own rules and administration. On the other hand, you have a unified identity and content history across those communities, so it's a lot easier for one community to take action based on your history in another, which is a strange dynamic.

I actually think Facebook Groups are onto something with the way post history and profiles work: each Facebook Group a user posts in creates a separate sub-profile for that user which is specific to the Group. Users in that Group can see a user's post history in that Group, and that user's "main" profile depending on their privacy settings, but a user can't walk "across" to see a user's post history in other Groups unless they search from that other Group.

I feel like per-subreddit post histories along with a global user profile would help move Reddit more towards the "sub-community" vision if that's the direction they want to go.

The issues Reddit have are:

* Cross-stalking, as discussed above.

* Content discovery. This is the same problem every user-generated content platform has. What sub-communities get surfaced on the logged-out front page? Cross-pollinated to existing users? Every type of content will be objectionable to someone, so deciding what to show is always going to be a lightning-rod issue with advertiser dollars at stake.

* Global moderation. What's "bad" enough to get a user banned from _all_ of Reddit? What happens when that user is completely banned (do all of their old posts disappear?) Should large-scale content moderation like spam be handled at a platform or a community level?

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