If a Spotify PM is collecting feedback: If I go to a song's Radio to try and discover similar songs, do not play me songs I already "liked" (ones with the heart icon highlighted), it defeats the purpose of going to the radio.
Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
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Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#372Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dystopian you say? For $15 a month I can access basically every song ever recorded at the click of a button, wirelessly on an ultrapowerful mobile computing device that fits comfortably in my pocket. Place yourself in about 1997 and savor that statement for a moment. But what have we gained?
And what do people do with this power? Listen on shitty tinny phone speakers or comically bad earbuds. Give me back my glorious 80s stereo.
> Listen on shitty tinny phone speakers
It’s crazy how bad these are, they manage to ruin a lot of great songs.
Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#373Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#374Earlier quoted context omitted.
I feel like we've lost essentially nothing. In the streaming era, it's easier than ever before to discover new artists and listen to an unprecedented variety of music with minimal investment. If it's slightly cumbersome to listen to albums on Spotify, it's still much less cumbersome that going to a store to buy a CD or purchasing online and waiting for it to arrive + keeping your collection physically organized and i…
Many people bring up the "discover new music" argument. It is probably subjective, but for me this has never been an issue. There are so many way to discover new music today, there are tons on youtube and people recommend in the comments, you see a mention of something and head over to Wikipedia, follow some links, and so on. I don't need an algorithm for it, an algorithm that most likely is more optimized for revenu…
> there are tons on youtube and people recommend in the comments
I mean if Spotify UX is bad, YouTube is absolutely trash. I have to pay to be able to stream media if my phone is locked.
Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#375Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know! CDs are such a great format, and as long as the ink doesn't corrode the aluminum layer, they can last a very long time. They are more compact than vinyl, they don't suffer from lots of vinyl's error modes but they still have things like liner notes. Plus they represent an album at a theoretical maximum of fidelity and reproducibility. What's not to like?
Physical storage space. ;) My laptop is smaller than any collection of CDs and can store an entire building of them in the space of 12 jewel cases. If you include my phone and a cellular connection for streaming, the entire world of music can be accessed in a device smaller than any portable CD player. And the speakers in my iPhone are better than most stereos from the same era. We truly live in the world where scien…
The speakers...
A while back, my wife and I went for a week way out in the sticks. We live in Oregon, and our favorite place is out in the Ochoco high desert National Forest. And nothing works there. I mean nothing except for AM radio late at night.[1]
After a few days, our hearing settles back to what is supposed to be normal. City life is loud and our hearing system compensates in various ways that reduce our ability to really appreciate sound.
After hearing that our ability to listen has relaxed into high potential mode, we decided to get the MacBook out and watch a movie. We had been saving this experience for a good time and it all came together nicely!
We were blown away![0]
Seriously. The amount and quality, fidelity of sound coming out of that MacBook was insane! Of course it all was soft on the low end. Not too much we could do about that because physics, but otherwise the whole experience was a real treat!
I find it difficult to communicate the impact. Here we are, gentle noises from our camp fire a modest distance away, various crackles, pops, hisses and an equally gentle breeze and our own bodies were the only sounds present outside of the movie sound track.
Mixed in nicely with all that was our movie. Actually a couple of them because we repeated the experience a couple times. It was so damn good!
All I can really say here is you should definitely give this a try!
So much engineering, better materials, better software, and it all adds right the fuck up. I really did not expect what I heard at all. Very highly recommended.
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[0] And to be clear, I am talking about all that we did hear when we did not expect to. Truth is, we were camping with a MacBook. The sound we heard wea respectable, despite it being small speakers and all that goes mobile devices.
It seemed sci-fi like to us. The tech advances, engineering all add up. And that's the blown away part. Experiencing a sum like that, rather than incrementally. The context really helped raise the impact.
[1] And that is a great experience! Any radio will be fun, but if you can get hold of a 70's maybe 80's era one with multiple frequency bands, say short wave, broadcast, and any others, the isolation means getting to connect to the world old school tuning stuff in from all over the place!
AM, on a good radio, is an interesting experience and again on a good radio optimized for what the tech actually does, will sound better than you think. And how it colors the material is something I crave. Comes from growing up listening to a fine Zenith "Trans Oceanic" radio with almost god like performance, but I digress...
Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#376Earlier quoted context omitted.
Please don't steal off of YouTube, there are better places.
Suggestions?
Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#377Does anyone know a "good" source of torrent fo music? I'm tired of Spotify and Deezer, the former not giving me the free choice of settings to, say, disable podcasts and the latter not having a "native" linux client at all. I'm going for Gnome's Music app + stored music somewhere.
Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#378"Dear product manager, can you stop creating useless widgets to justify your next raise?"
"No."
Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. Does anyone else get a dystopian vibe from this statement? I feel like the old guy in the SF movie pulling his hair and exclaiming, "But what have we lost?!" We used to have vinyl, tapes, finally CDs, and even the ability to rip our library to a computer, which we could carry with us. It was…
The physicality of cassettes/records/CDs/mini-disks was fun, and listening to an entire album sometimes was really cool - but almost entirely not. Most albums were padded with crap to fill it up so people didn't feel ripped off. Remember, an album in 1985 cost $40 in 2022 dollars. Sure, there were occasional albums that the artist really thought about, including the slipcase, and the physicality of that I miss. But y…
> Want to listen to albums? Stop using Spotify. I honestly don't get why people choose that one. Youtube music blows it out of the water, and you can get ad-free youtube with it as well
For me at this point it’s mostly porting. I have a ton of playlist and some are quite large and it would horribly tedious to port over by hand.
I’ve tried some automated tools in the past, but YouTube doesn’t always have correct of necessary title/artist metadata and there were a lot of bad matches.
Re: Dear Spotify, can we just get a table of songs?
#380Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Spotify is extremely biased towards playlist listening and makes browsing and listening to a library of albums really painful. Does anyone else get a dystopian vibe from this statement? I feel like the old guy in the SF movie pulling his hair and exclaiming, "But what have we lost?!" We used to have vinyl, tapes, finally CDs, and even the ability to rip our library to a computer, which we could carry with us. It was…
Turntables are not cheap because of the vinyl revival, so they are trendy, hence expensive. Nobody wants CD players :(
Tapes seem to have made a comeback in certain Punk/Rap scenes, but a lot of it seems mostly aesthetic/an attempt to replicate some period l (see Memphis phonk: where home recorded tapes were a cornerstone of the genre and have had a bit of a revival in the last years)