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Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by teschty »

ktross wrote: post #97

Logitech is no longer the great company it used to be, so I have decided to no longer purchase their products. I purchased a G Pro X Wireless Headset less than 2 years ago, and I'm already on my second warrranty replacement (3 total headsets.) Multiple parts on it seem designed to fail, and all of mine have failed in the same way. They use laughably small screws to connect the band to the arms that hold the earcups a…

Very weird, I've had the opposite experience. I used to think their hardware products were complete crap, but now I own a G Pro mouse, keyboard, and headset from them (they've definitely stepped it up in the design game at the very least.)

Changed my headset to the G Pro X Wireless after having broken 2 SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless headsets, which for some reason decided to use a single plastic piece for the hinge to hold the earcups on (on a $350 headset!).

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Izikiel43 »

endor5639 wrote: post #160
neogodless wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm familiar with the use case for this. I don't want to use the same keyboard for work (typing) all day that I'd use for gaming after work. I also don't want TWO wired keyboards. So if I can have a wireless gaming keyboard that I set off out of the way during work, and then can push my main keyboard (wired ergonomic membrane) out of the way and use the gaming keyboard (wireless mechanical), I have the ideal input de…

The Microsoft sculpt keyboard is their wireless ergo model

The problem is that those keyboards are bound to their receiver, so if the receiver dies (which happens more often than not), the keyboard is useless.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by User23 »

I don't understand why virtually everyone, even DIY enthusiasts, appears to insist on these monstrously large 6-7 key width space bars. Even a 4 width spacebar would leave room for another pair of modifier keys comfortably located beneath the thumbs. The only modern exceptions I've seen are some Japanese keyboards.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by krnlpnc »

ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference).

Really? Been using Logitech devices for years and never had any issue with interference.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Macha »

ajmurmann wrote: post #329
Macha wrote: post #308

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I have my keyboard connected to two computers from working from home. I have my work Mac running connected to my primary monitor and my personal computer connected to my secondary monitor because I've ran out of usb ports on my Mac. The wireless dongle + Bluetooth feature lets me have the keyboard connected to both without needing a KVM setup. The laptop also moves, and I take the wireless keyboard with me when in th…

I am really surprised by the benefit being switching between machines. For me switching bluetooth devices always has been much harder than just plugging a cable into a different machine. Is the dongle making this easier? Don't you still have to switch what machine the dongle is plugged into?

The keyboard stays paired to one machine over bluetooth, and the other via a dongle (which appears to that computer as just a regular usb keyboard). The dongle is some proprietary protocol over 2.4ghz, it's not bluetooth. I've heard some people in this thread mention that makes it susceptible to interference from places crowded with wifi devices, but for me at least it's been always reliable.

The dongle is instant on. Bluetooth wake up is fast (compared to repairing, or having to disconnect one device to connect another, which I guess is your experience you're comparing to?). So changing to the machine with the dongle in it is instant, the one with bluetooth connection ~1s.

The way I do it does mean the setup only works for n=2 devices, but also reading the thread there seems to be some multi-machine feature in the app if you use that too.

Meanwhile using USB cables to switch means crawling under my desk or having multiple cables cluttering my desk.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by Macha »

dmix wrote: post #326
jkaptur wrote: post #276

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I used a Das Keyboard for over a decade and loved it. Now I've switched to a Drop Alt so I can hotswap "better" switches and run QMK, which I've grown completely dependent on ( https://jkaptur.com/layout/ ). For me, keyboards like Das Keyboard, Alt, Ctrl, etc. are the perfect satisfice: good keyboards, at a price that's not terrible, with a time & research commitment that falls below the level of "hobby". I could eas…

What's the logic of using a tiny 40% keyboard like the guy uses in that blog post? Just adding effort to add additional keys using capslock.

I can understand why people use 60/70% keyboards. I personally couldn't give up the numpad, home/end/pgup/pgdown/arrow keys for it, but there's definitely something to be said for the comfort level of having the mouse less far off from the keyboard.

I think once you're into anything less than 60%, either you literally just type text and use the mouse/touchpad items instead of keyboard shortcuts, or you're more focused in the aesthetic minimalism rather than the functionality.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by empressplay »

bayindirh wrote: post #21
ubertaco wrote: post #16

This looks like a non-hotswappable board with proprietary switches, and it's still tied to Logitech's wireless dongles (which are notoriously bad about both causing and being super-sensitive to 2.4Ghz-spectrum interference). I mean, I _think_ the switches are proprietary -- the page has no real information about the switches at all, which is a bit like selling a computer by showing you a picture of the case and telli…

> I don't get who this product is for, other than maybe someone who has heard mechanical keyboards are cool but is daunted by doing any research into what mechanical keyboard options exist out there. Me, or anybody who needs a no-fuss, one-shot, buy-and-use-it-till-it-dies type of consumer. I don't care about changing switches. I don't care about DIY. While I'm perfectly capable, I don't want to spend time on that. I…

If you want a cheap mechanical use-it-until-it-dies keyboard, I recommend https://www.prohavit.com/products/kb487l-tkl-mechanical-keyb... -- $69US

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by 55555 »

donatj wrote: post #124

I am not a gamer. The price gouging on things gamers enjoy is irritating. It happened with headphones, mice, and now keyboards. As “gamers” and particularly streamers grew as a market category, the prices for goods associated with them went insane. Even considering inflation, $150 for a Logitech keyboard is just nuts, even if it is mechanical.

Mechanical keyboards are actually expensive. I looked into making one once and it seemed that way, at least. I was shocked and dropped the project.

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by adhesive_wombat »

regularfry wrote: post #280
victorhooi wrote: post #267

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Whilst I get your point - you might want to tone down the rhetoric slightly... I'm a mechanical keyboard aficionado - I've gone through everything from Das, to Annes, to WhiteFoxes, to Keychrons. (Yes, I did solder some of those...lol). My current daily driver is a Keychron K6 - but even I am seriously considering this Logitech. The spec sheet promises a battery life of 10 months (no backlight) - the Keychron K6 is f…

You would think. The most annoying piece of hardware I have is a Microsoft wireless mouse which, while it's physically fine, goes to sleep very quickly and takes roughly a second to wake up when you move it. It's pretty much unusable as a result. Which is disappointing, because MS hardware generally is pretty good, but I guess everyone misses sometimes.

> guess everyone misses sometimes.

It's still strange to me how companies like Microsoft and Logitech can still regularly produce lemons after, what, 15 years of optical mouse production. It's not like anything fundamentally changes any more, they should have a winning set of virtually perfect devices that cover the entire market with interlocking segments by now.

I guess they're going for the "make it bit shit on purpose so we can sell them another mouse in 2 years" strategy.

Or maybe they just cannot help themselves from penny pinching good products into bad products so continually that you don't even know which are which any more (and you certainly can't tell if the expensive models are actually better or not).

I guess it's good that they're leaving market gaps open for the little guys?

Re: Logitech MX Mechanical Keyboard

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Post by bayindirh »

bronikowski wrote: post #362
dotancohen wrote: post #230

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I'm also a mechanical keyboard aficionado and I always write with a fountain pen. It's probably not an uncommon correlation of interest, all things considered.

It's a common joke on r/fountainpens. I think there's a subreddit covering fountain pens, mechanical keyboards and, if my memory serves me, headphones.

That's something I like, a lot: https://preview.redd.it/occvkly0cd471.png?auto=webp&s=1427cf...
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