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Then to be perfectly honest they are bad at their jobs. The purpose of HR is to protect a company (which in practice means, its senior managers) from the employees.

No, the purpose of HR is to manage one of the company's most valuable assets. Acting adversarially is a great way of driving away the most valuable assets.

Resources, not assets.

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The HR people in my company help me all the time. It's a shame that so many workplaces are so adversarial.

Then to be perfectly honest they are bad at their jobs. The purpose of HR is to protect a company (which in practice means, its senior managers) from the employees.

Bad at their jobs, that's rich. There are a lot of times when I am reminded to be glad that I work where I do; this is one of them.

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I only got down the first few paragraphs but it sounds like most of the complaints are "retail vs tech company" stuff. Retail has razor-thin margins so of course they will all be cheap as hell. If you think Amazon is bad, try working for Walmart HQ.

you should read the rest of it - it's not about amazon's working conditions, it's about a mistake that google is making. (btw i didn't downvote you)

I did read the rest of it and I still say the complaints he has against Amazon sound more like complaints against working in retail. If you like having a nice working environment, stay far away from retail because they're all like that. There's no money to be anything else.

P.S. When I can trade HN karma for time off from work I'll start to care about it.

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"There are dozens, maybe hundreds of individual learnings like these that Amazon had to discover organically."

From the examples, this would be a very valuable documentation to have access to.

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I worked at Amazon from before Steve left to sometime later. I remember being excited when Larry Tessler was hired, and dismayed at the way he was treated. Everything Steve says about Amazon is true, only, it was much worse. Amazon was, by far, the worst employment experience I've ever had. I'm not saying that lightly, I worked for a dozen startups, a couple of which crashed hard in the most gut wrenchingly painful w…

So why does anyone good work at Amazon? And if the only people left at amazon are most crappy people willing to take the abuse, how can they build such a thriving company?

I think people massive overestimate how smart people you need to build most things.

(and Google overestimate more than most...)

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I find it hard to believe that any significant number of people use things made using Facebook Platform. Vast majority of people simply use the product itself.

Spotify, MOG, Pandora, Farmville, are all popular users of the platform.

Yeah, but Steve made it sound that that's why Facebook is successful. I was disputing that.

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You know, I think when I was hired, I went from 3 weeks of vacation to 2 weeks... and I didn't even think about it, because I was too busy dealing with the fact that they didn't want to pay me anywhere close to what I was making before. Which was, by the way, a below market salary paid by a startup, to begin with! I finally got them to meet it with a "hiring bonus" that would match my previous salary for the first ye…

According to "Showstopper!", Microsoft would allow developers to go MIA for a bit after completing a tough project. That seems like a fair policy if you have a mature set of developers who deliver on their commitments.

That's terrible. MIA is the worst airport in the world. How is that supposed to help morale?

Oh, wait. I misread that.

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