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Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by NE2z2T9qi »

psychometry wrote: post #301
NE2z2T9qi wrote: post #244

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Everytime I saw a news article about the_Donald being an irredeemable den of vitriol and hate--and I actually went to check it out to see if the claims were true--all the top posts were just mildly edgy memes, over-the-top bragging about presidential accomplishments, and some conspiratorial claims which seemed repeated half ironically. Could it be that you're just much more easily offended than other people?

No, it's just that you didn't click through to any of the comments...

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by spaced-out »

lucasmullens wrote: post #169
kylebenzle wrote: post #41

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Users won't allow for (use) decentralized platforms until there is a good way to censor them. Once that happens, what would be the point of switching. Facebook and Reddit are successful BECAUSE they are censorship machines. Facebook spends far more man hours on "curating" content compared to engineering. Same with Reddit. Add up all the "moderation" time spent removing negative or controversial posts and I bet much m…

> Users won't allow for (use) decentralized platforms until there is a good way to censor them. Once that happens, what would be the point of switching. You could imagine a world where there's multiple apps that access the same decentralized platform, where the censoring happens at the application level. So if your favorite community gets banned in one app, if you want, you could switch to a different app. Not a perf…

And how would a community deal with being brigaded by another, often larger community?

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by c3534l »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #348
c3534l wrote: post #246

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They didn't ban Trump, nor did they ban all subreddits about Trump. They banned a single subreddit which repeatedly violates reddit rules and refuses to moderate according the rules.

I guarantee you any new pro-Trump subreddits will be banned quickly due to "Ban Evasion".

Not likely. All the conservatives have move to /r/conservative, which actually bans people for threatening to kill people and things like that, and Reddit appears to have no problem with them.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by duxup »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #248
duxup wrote: post #86

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Would something decentralized help? I don't think people want that. The_Donald involved a lot of spreading their message / fake news sites / spamming across other subs and etc. Do people want to be on a platform where other folks on the same platform are targeting their community with dishonest and often bigoted content? I'm also not sure how much The_Donald was as a community. The sheer volume of users at its height…

> I don't think people want that. The_Donald involved a lot of spreading their message / fake news sites / spamming across other subs and etc. > Do people want to be on a platform where other folks on the same platform are targeting their community with dishonest and often bigoted content? No, but I think people want equal, consistent, and predictable enforcement. Notably, lots of other communities are allowed to exi…

>lots of other communities are allowed to exist despite having much more and more overt bigotry including celebrations of political violence

I would argue that was what TD was until very recently.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by nabla9 »

If you look at the posting history of people who post lots of politics or bigoted, many of them are really weird.

One very clear class of weird is people who only post 1-2 sentence posts. If you scroll down, they may post 10-100 posts per day and they are always some short unoriginal emotionally loaded statement of the world situation. If they are not banned the posting history can go on for years, with just endless stream of short sentences.

Discussing for them is just saying opinions. They take everything against them personally. If you try to engage them into discussion, they really can't.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by [deleted] »

linuxftw wrote: post #259
fortran77 wrote: post #181

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I tried some of the alternatives. I figured if the people I don't like stay in their subgroups, I'm fine. But they don't. They invade every group. I don't want to see extremely racist posts in my "anti-bicyclist" group (for example). They'll take every post and make it about race.

> They'll take every post and make it about race. It's called trolling. As long as you're feeding the trolls, they keep trolling. Do other language forums have these race problems? Are English speaking sites being targeted by nefarious actors or botnets with racist remarks for some ulterior purpose? It seems to me that posting racist things on the internet may have been weaponized.

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Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by symlinkk »

cryptoz wrote: post #344
WorkingDead wrote: post #260

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Hobby specific communities were a big attraction point to reddit, but even those have devolved into heavy censorship. There isnt really a good draw to the site anymore.

IMO the 'heavy censorship' is the only thing keeping hobby communities going well. Without that moderation, you'd be trying to learn about something fun like knitting but you'd see a bunch of hateful content, like racist MAGA stuff instead of knitting for example. Having the moderation get stronger is the only way to save hobby subreddits IMO.

No you wouldn’t, that’s the whole point of upvotes and downvotes. The community gets to decide what’s popular. Not moderators.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by 13415 »

superkuh wrote: post #51

I have no love for the political ideology or behavior of this group but they weren't breaking any laws or even any more rules than other groups on reddit that still operate. They were just politically unviable. Centralized corporate means to communicate (like, say, this one we're using) always go bad eventually. It's the natural lifecycle of online forums. Once money involved it's only a matter of time before the pro…

I've written about it elsewhere, so just a quick comment: The best thing is to get rid of all political zealots on a forum. The majority of users are not interested in the political opinions of these people (who usually defend fringe views), and political agitation in online forums is not needed or any way beneficial for democracy. It just annoys the vast majority of normal users.

Re: Reddit shuts down subreddits including r/The_Donald and r/ChapoTrapHouse

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

three_seagrass wrote: post #295
Miner49er wrote: post #122

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Yeah, the ban of T_D is only symbolic; it has been dead for months. I think the real news here is the ban of /r/ChapoTrapHouse, (arguably) the most active leftist subreddit there was.

The current mods killed the_donald. The mods, not the admins, made it so that only a shortlist of approved users could post content in the subreddit. It was likely a move to push the community somewhere else.

The current mods were appointed by the admins....
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