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Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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> It'll be interesting to see what happens in 5-10 years What is already happening in rich parts of Asia. Tons of pissed off women with no kids who want to raise your taxes.

> who want to raise your taxes. Why do they want to raise taxes?

> Why do they want to raise taxes?

Takes 2 incomes (or a rich income) to buy the luxuries most women demand. Most women are still not as wealthy as men.

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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post #12

They buried the lede here. > Sexual activity was largely unchanged among unmarried women, along with no notable decline among gay men, researchers reported. Basically sex is following the pattern of wealth. Men as a group aren't having less sex, instead there's a winner take all effect where a small number of men are having a lot of sex with a lot of women while a large number of men are having little to no sex. It'l…

> It'll be interesting to see what happens in 5-10 years What is already happening in rich parts of Asia. Tons of pissed off women with no kids who want to raise your taxes.

Can you elaborate more on this TLDR?

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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post #325

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None of the things listed are difficult at all. They take willpower and time, of course, but they aren't rocket science.

having willpower and time are two of the most dificult things in life.

Heartily disagree. If you have time to play video games and endlessly post on reddit, then you have time to get in shape and take a shower. Willpower's even easier barring mental illness (in which case they should see a doctor, not whine about women on the internet).

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I think you answered your own question. If not, go visit a forum for incels and see how happy they are.

At the same time, people definitely can be happy without sex - various religious factions have been doing it for ages with vows of celibacy, and today there's a non-negligible "volcel" (voluntarily celibate) movement.

> At the same time, people definitely can be happy without sex

Yeah, but that's really like saying "but people can be happy while they are fasting" to somebody that is being starved.

Something being voluntary often makes the difference between it being considered harmful or even torture and a weird thing.

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That's similar to saying that technology isn't about liberating the worker, but rendering most of the work force obsolete and only hiring the top 20% of performers. Your freedom does not compel anybody to be in a relationship with you, just like your freedom does not require somebody to hire you. I agree that there are larger societal changes at play, but saying this isn't strictly more free than before isn't paintin…

Its a zero sum game. When one side wins, the other side loses. Sexual freedom for women means essentially no sex for alot of men.

I don't think this is a universal fact, so much as a result of the way that dating culture has played out over the last few decades.

If you read the work of earlier sexual reformers, particularly Wilhelm Reich, who wrote "Sexual Revolution" in the 1930s (yes, that one), then you instead find dreams of new ways of living together, with sexual freedom going hand-in-hand with the total abolition of the nuclear family, etc.

Instead, we've become more isolated in societal terms, and more dependent on commodifying ourselves and others (particular in terms of image) in order to attain our social and physical pleasures. It is the result of this shift--isolation and atomization, not freedom qua freedom--that we see the problems discussed here.

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Why is it not the other way around? i.e. rich females getting a lot of males.

Studies have shown that rich females are less willing to "date down" than males are.

Care to point to these studies?

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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post #9

I wonder how much of an impact the pervasive availability of digital pornography has on this.

I know it has personally impacted me. At a young age, I simply gave up on trying to find women to have sex with simply because I had access to the best porn on the internet.

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There are two coaching perspectives that I think are useful for single men. We don't have many dating coaches in the coaching community I run, but I've been in long conversations with coaches outside that community whose job it is to help men date. One perspective is that it's almost always faster to focus on being more interested rather than more interesting. That means focusing on status and alpha male activities i…

I'm glad you brought up the friend-zone thing. I feel like I'm extremely good at all the things you listed before that, and I have a ton of female friends (which I love, don't get me wrong). I just have no idea to turn that into sex.

Great. I guarantee you are 100x closer to figuring out your love life than anyone here talking about wealth, looks or status.

I don't want to be a love coach. But how are you with making an ask? Do you ever use clear language like, "Would you like to go on a date?" or if you're on a date, "Would you like to hold hands?" "Can I kiss you?"

She's on a date for a reason too. And if the answer is no, then congratulations on sorting a person from the unknown bucket into the no-romantic-interest bucket. If they say no, accept the answer respectfully and move on.

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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Isn't the best way to have regular sex is to be in a committed relationship, either a marriage or living with a partner? These are on a decline. Statistically women date/marry and live with older men, so I think it would be expected that they are having more sex in the ages of 18-24.

So many of the comments on here seem to be making an implicit and flawed assumption that people are only having sex within their age cohort.

Re: Young U.S. men having a lot less sex in the 21st century, study shows

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post #286

I surprised how the article or any of the comments did not address pornography. Having been given up on it years from now, so I can talk out of experience. The number and clarity of with which women kept and keep on signifying to me to have sex with them, or just they interested in me, are just crazy. Usually when I start a friendly chat, it takes 2 minutes without me trying anything to make them come closer to me an…

You're just attractive I guess?

Are you implying they can smell nofap on you wtf.

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