> The quality of that data is still a problem, as ad buyers notice it is of a lower quality than data that was previously available
Not a problem at all.
iOS 13 app tracking alert has dramatically cut location data flow to ad industry
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I have never owned an ios device in my life and strongly avoid them but this makes drift slightly over considering one. If apple allowed easily sideloading apps I would consider moving over.
Sideloading on iOS is as easy as installing the free Cydia Compactor on your PC or laptop and dropping an app on it. The downside is that self-signed certificates only last seven days unless you have a paid developer account, but if you're comfortable with jailbreaking (which is even easier than sideloading since you can do it just by tapping a link in Safari on iOS) then you can install Reprovision which automatical…
> Cydia Compactor
Cydia Impactor
> which is even easier than sideloading since you can do it just by tapping a link in Safari on iOS
Jailbreaking is not "easy" (a number of devices today have no public jailbreaks) and web-based jailbreaks are quite rare.
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For some reason I still strongly prefer the look and feel of Android over iOS, but at this point my next phone will be an iPhone. Why? Because Google recently stepped up its notification spam in their official apps. They're using a mechanism that's supposed to exist to notify me of things _I_ want/need to know about urgently instead to advertise products and services to me that I have no interest in. It's tedious to…
I use Lineage OS + microg with no Google apps on a compatible phone and I experience zero Google. Else, I seem to be able to enjoy Android to its fullest, using the Aurora app store. Lineage OS might be a viable alternative for people who prefer Android but disdain Google.
Yup, searched for this comment, doing the same thing on my Mi A3. Besides on Android you can just set up Blokada, its dead simple and resolves all the ADS, operating system and others...
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#374The alert is annoying although for apps you want to have always on location tracking although, like some life logging apps. (Arc, etc) It's like OS doesn't want to accept there are apps you want always on location tracking on and for it to stop annoying you about it.
Is there anything like Arc for android?
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#375And it’s not just location data. I am amazed at how many apps want Bluetooth, too. Umm, there isn’t a single listed feature that indicates a need for BT, why are you asking? Oh, so you can use that as a tracking vector, too. Well, not only do you not get BT, you don’t get to live on my phone anymore, either. As for the advertisers, boo-hoo. You raised a finger (or two, depending on locale) to “do not track”, you thin…
I'm pretty sure that the reason for this is dependencies. People don't just write apps anymore. They write CocoaPods frameworks. I was just looking at something that someone wrote that does basically the same thing as one of my open-source utilities. The one I wrote is a 300-line file. It's so small that it isn't even worth writing a pod for it. The more popular one has over a dozen source files, and also brings in t…
Are you aware of any common libraries which aren’t ad packages but do ask for Bluetooth or Location Services by default? I’ve had a handful of apps which legitimately need to talk to devices but all of the inexplicable ones were clearly using ads and had privacy policies a mile long before I deleted them.
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#376Earlier quoted context omitted.
For some reason I still strongly prefer the look and feel of Android over iOS, but at this point my next phone will be an iPhone. Why? Because Google recently stepped up its notification spam in their official apps. They're using a mechanism that's supposed to exist to notify me of things _I_ want/need to know about urgently instead to advertise products and services to me that I have no interest in. It's tedious to…
> I paid a premium for a high-end flagship Google phone Unfortunately it seems paying a premium isn't enough to get any respect from manufacturers these days. Just look at Samsung and LG TVs, you can pay thousands for a high-end model and still have to set up PiHole to avoid being shown ads in the menus.
This is why I use an AppleTV, and don't give my TV the wifi password.
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#377I'm probably saying the complete obvious, but Apple can completely crush Google if they execute this angle properly. Google has no choice but to support ads. They're an ad company. Apple has to keep hammering how bad the ad and privacy experiences are with Android. Make iOS an absolute delight to use in contrast. I'd pay a premium for that. Android has done a great job making me want an iOS device again, these last t…
For some reason I still strongly prefer the look and feel of Android over iOS, but at this point my next phone will be an iPhone. Why? Because Google recently stepped up its notification spam in their official apps. They're using a mechanism that's supposed to exist to notify me of things _I_ want/need to know about urgently instead to advertise products and services to me that I have no interest in. It's tedious to…
> I paid a premium for a high-end flagship Google phone.
This is surprising to me. All the messaging from the phone companies makes it seem like they are essentially giving them away.
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> Now if iOS was more hacker friendly, I'd write an app to automate that action and have it run regularly or on a random schedule or something. Of course you never mentioned Android in your post, but I just want to point out that Android in no way is more hacker-friendly. As soon as you obtain root access half of apps will stop to be feature-complete because Google have SafetyNet and there is no way at all to make yo…
> there is no way at all to make your own legit "hacker" apps trusted to use elevated privileges Of course there is. To circumvent this closed apple-esque bullshit you can just install magisk.
My point is that Android as platform don't have this feature and it's vendor only care about interests of carriers, pro-DRM media companies and own ads business.
Magisk is never ending cat and mouse game and at any moment Google can just add some hardware-backed privileged rootkit that not going to be easy to bypass. So it's not always usable for every app out there.
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iOS really needs a channel for legitimate, real background apps. A lot of its battery life and security advantages over Android come from the fact that it doesn't allow a wild-west of background processes, but there are certain cases where you really do just need that. Apple is good at taking use-cases and creating cohesive stories around the right way to serve them; this one has been long-coming.
I honestly don’t know how you manage this with a normal user/consumer without a flood of “my battery life is gone” complaints. Even with opt-In messaging how many people just click “ok” thinking the app needs it.
They could do it the same way they did it with background location (what this whole article is about) - keep pestering the user "this app has used 15% of your battery in the background, disable background processing for it?". Only the most die-hard IRC users will keep allowing it.
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> Generally you can't get unremovable malaware installed on an iphone. Apple uses FUD to justify restricting users from doing what they want with their phone. > If this type of privacy restriction makes you choose android privacy invading phones - go for android. This is not what I’m talking about. I want to be able to use tools such as NetGuard to enhance privacy, which iOS doesn’t allow.
"FUD" isn't so uncertain when there is known widespread android malware. iOS malware only happens in extreme cases (like ransomware via a bad profile https://i.blackhat.com/briefings/asia/2018/asia-18-Zhu-and-L... ), via something like XcodeGhost, or via safari tech support scams. Just look at how stark of contrast there is between the lists of malware for both devices - https://www.cyber.nj.gov/threat-profiles/andro…
Have you read what types of malware is on the list?
"Download and install this app from sketchy place" kind of thing...