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Re: United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year freeze

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Post by iudqnolq » Fri, Dec 20, 2019, 2:22 AM UTC

masonic wrote: post #338

iudqnolq wrote: post #246

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It passed the Assembly in a bipartisan manner, but the governor was a republican (Reagan). It was also introduced by a republican (Mulford). I didn't mean to excuse the Democrats who supported it, they were racist opportunists, I merely wanted to point out the CA Republican party dropped its principled support for 2nd Amendment Rights as soon as the people they would be protecting didn't look White like them.

It passed the Assembly in a bipartisan manner It passed both houses with over 2/3rds majorities , and neither was Republican controlled... so your attempt to make it a partisan thing is confusing.

> so your attempt to make it a partisan thing is confusing.

I said it bipartisan. Both Democrats and Republicans supported it. But it's more intesting to me and many others that Republicans supported gun control, because Democratic support is a given. I wasn't aiming to say either party acted better in this specific case.

Re: United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year freeze

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Post by Turing_Machine » Wed, Dec 25, 2019, 9:02 PM UTC

melling wrote: post #151

Turing_Machine wrote: post #141

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> Colonial history contains many examples of firearm regulations in urban areas that imposed obstacles to their use for protection of the home. None of the Bill of Rights applied to the states until the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868, after which it was held to be "incorporated to the states". State and local laws from the colonial period are not relevant. During the same period, several states had establ…

It’s surprising that Justice Stevens didn’t understand that when he wrote it in May of this year. Is it possible that he did and you’re missing something?

Justice Stevens is the outlier here. The majority of the court agrees with me, not him.

Re: United States to fund gun-violence research after 20-year freeze

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Post by ikt » Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 12:15 PM UTC

stevenicr wrote: post #315

ikt wrote: post #222

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I personally would want my Grandma to live in a safe neighbourhood, one that doesn't require her to have a weapon to defend herself. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/18/gun-ownership-... Their findings, published Wednesday in the prestigious American Journal of Medicine, debunk the historic belief among many people in the United States that guns make a country safer, they say. On the contrary, the US, with…

I think we all personally want safety for grandmas in that way. Unfortunately we can't all control that. When my neighbors moved here they chose safe neighborhoods that had little violence / crime. Over the years the demographics have changed immensely, and crime has soared. Many people here are stuck, they want to get out but housing from here to an hour outside of town has gotten so expensive it doesn't make sense.…

> When my neighbors moved here they chose safe neighborhoods that had little violence / crime. Over the years the demographics have changed immensely, and crime has soared.

Where is this? My understanding is that violent crime has been reduced in a majority of America.

https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/amer...

> I'd love to live in a place that has real social safety nets and does not have the Latin American countries a hop skip and train away

This doesn't make sense, the Latin countries were a hop skip and a train away 20 years ago, so this is a moot point.