Or they can just open up OS X to more hardwares.
Handling the burden of hardware fragmentation will reduce their quality and velocity. It's not in their DNA and definitely not in their strategy to make this happen.
New Mac Pro Tech Specs
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#372I think they should include Apple Care for their professional equipment. This won't put any any more money in Apple's pocket but I could see it being another differentiator and a good bit of PR, especially to all of those price arguments. Plus, it's only $300 and I'm sure Apple could suffer that "loss" on a $6,000 - $30,000 purchase.
> I think they should include Apple Care for their professional equipment. This won't put any any more money in Apple's pocket but I could see it being another differentiator and a good bit of PR, especially to all of those price arguments. Do Apple hardware failures happen often? In ~20 years of assembling PCs with consumer grade parts I've only had 2 legit non-keyboard/mouse hardware failures (3 if you count lightn…
Sure, they fail plenty, and Apple "extends the repair period" on products fairly often. Macworld has a pretty good roundup for recent ones:
https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/mac/macbook-problems-reca...
These were one's that specifically came to mind for me:
2019: Battery Recall: https://www.wired.com/story/apple-macbook-pro-recall/
2018: Macbook Air Logic Board issue: https://www.laptopmag.com/articles/apple-macbook-air-power-i...
2018: Battery Recall: https://qz.com/1258843/macbook-pro-battery-recall-apple-ends...
2017: Screen staining: https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/17/apple-extends-free-stai...
2018 SSD Issue: https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/09/apple-macbook-pro-ssd-s...
2017: Battery recall https://support.apple.com/15-inch-macbook-pro-battery-recall
2016: "Flexgate" _ https://www.macrumors.com/guide/flexgate-macbook-pro-display...
2013 - 15 Retina Screen Issues: https://www.cultofmac.com/514741/apple-extends-free-repair-p...
2010: White Macbooks Yellowing - "https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/unibody-white-macbook-t...
2009: White MacBooks crack: https://appleinsider.com/articles/09/04/08/apple_addressing_...
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#373"Maximum altitude: tested up to 16,400 feet (5000 meters)" Does anyone know how or where they do this testing? Seems quite bothersome to do.
Among other use-cases, high-elevation astronomical research can strain hardware.
ESO, the European Southern Observatory, has its Llano de Chajnantor observatory at 5,100m (16,700 ft), in the Atacama Desert. Low humidity is a major concern for electronics due to static buildup and discharges.
Not sure how much Apple kit they use.
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#375Still don't understand the justification for this machine, I waited years for a MacPro but when it became clear that Apple actually considered it a dead product and behind the scenes were building the iMac Pro to fill the niche I switched to windows and now run a dual 1080Ti workstation (Uses CUDA for 3D rendering path-tracing) for around half the price of a iMac Pro. Apple bloggers said time and time again the reaso…
Were people editing Marvel movies really waiting a decade for this though? Pretty confident they've moved on to PCs years ago. I struggle to find the target audience for this, now that they are alienating home users.
>Were people editing Marvel movies really waiting a decade for this though?
Given the number of posts telling people in Hollywood not to restart their Trashcan mac Pros because of the Google Raven screw up, I would say that yes, in fact, plenty of people in Hollywood are using Mac Pros, and likely will buy this new one.
> I struggle to find the target audience for this, now that they are alienating home users
This machine has NOTHING, and I mean nothing to do with home users.
Next you'll tell me that Tesla have alienated "normal" car buyers because they make a $100k P100D rocket ship. Tesla also make a $35k regular sedan. Apple also make much cheaper iMacs, and Mac Books and Mac Books Airs for home buyers.
I don't understand why people time and time again bash Apple for making something that isn't in any way designed for "home users", while they still make plenty of things that are.
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#376Earlier quoted context omitted.
And robust air conditioning, too. Source: worked in an office full of dual-GPU deep learning workstations. We had to bring in those gigantic rental portable conditioners in the summer, and re-do pretty much all of the existing wiring in the office, because electricians who installed the first iteration could not conceive of having two dozen ~900W workstations cranking away 24x7x365 in a single open office plan.
Why do you have the GPUs inside the office with the people rather than in a server room under temperature control?
> Why do you have the GPUs inside the office with the people rather than in a server room under temperature control?
Because Nvidia, the 800 lb / 400 kg gorilla of the GPU ML/AI space, has decreed that only "data centre class" GPUs can be used in a server room, and those are much more expensive than the GeForce and Titan cards:
* https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/03/nvidia_server_gpus/
* https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/27/nvidia-limits-data-center-us...
So instead of spending $1000 on an 2080 or US$ 3000 on a Titan, per the EULA you have to spend US$ 8000 on a Tesla.
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#377People here seem to think this is just a random set of components not as good as X+Y+Z. This machine was designed and specced based on talking with the people who will be buying them, not the general public. Complaining its not X+Y+Z is like saying IBM didn't design a mainframe for your needs. Not everything has to build for everyone.
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#378The starting 256 GB SSD sticks out like a sore thumb on a machine as expensive as this. The barebones Mac Mini comes with 128 GB and 6-core Mini with 256 GB. And upgrading it is gonna cost an arm and a leg.
"If you can afford the Mac Pro then you can afford the extra storage" as the Apple bloggers keep saying....
More like "If you can afford the Mac Pro, you probably already have many, many Terra bytes of storage arrays"
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#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which is insane.. do people really use the wireless capability of their keyboard or mouse? Especially when you can't use your freaking mouse when it's charging? Serious insanity. Edit to add: of course I know people use those keyboards... I meant are people actually moving with them in ways that makes the wireless capability useful? Do most users not stay in a pretty close proximity the whole time?
> do people really use the wireless capability of their keyboard or mouse? Yes. Why wouldn't you? Why do you think the downsides are? > Especially when you can't use your freaking mouse when it's charging? I charge it for about ten minutes every month while I'm out. It doesn't interfere with anything.
The downside is that when your peripherals' batteries go flat, or the Bluetooth stack goes tits-up, you've got no keyboard or mouse.
This happens with some regularity on the iMac I'm typing this on presently. The system has a wired (non-issue) keyboard, but the wireless Bluetooth "Magic Mouse". Every so often the mouse (or more likely, Mac) decides it wants to wedge Bluetooth and forget the mouse pairing / configuration. Powering down the mouse doesn't fix this, nor does restarting the computer itself.
If it wasn't for the old legacy wired mouse+keyboard combo from the prior iMac this largely replaces, the system would be dead in the water when this happened.
(Subsequent OS updates seem to have made mouseless operation slightly more viable, at least for recovery purposes. It's possible to log in and fire up System Preferences, which is most of the recovery process.)
Too: removing additional steps in the keyboard/mouse stack results in crisper response:
https://danluu.com/keyboard-latency/
Fewer moving parts => more reliable operation.
I hate wireless mice and keyboards.
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#380Earlier quoted context omitted.
Were people editing Marvel movies really waiting a decade for this though? Pretty confident they've moved on to PCs years ago. I struggle to find the target audience for this, now that they are alienating home users.
> Were people editing Marvel movies really waiting a decade for this though? Given the number of posts telling people in Hollywood not to restart their Trashcan mac Pros because of the Google Raven screw up, I would say that yes, in fact, plenty of people in Hollywood are using Mac Pros, and likely will buy this new one. > I struggle to find the target audience for this, now that they are alienating home users This m…
You can only focus on so many products... I don't see why it's confusing when people are upset by what they choose to focus on