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Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by sdan »

bgentry wrote: post #101
lliamander wrote: post #49

Slightly off-topic, but who here uses a HEDT (high-end desktop) or workstation computer for software development? Does it make a significant difference in comparison with a standard business laptop?

I use an 8-core iMac Pro with 64GB RAM; it’s wonderful. When I bought it I was doing some embedded device work involving a Windows VM, as well as heavy web dev on a frontend JS app and a backend app with tons of Chrome tabs open. All these things crave memory, and my 16GB MacBook Pro was swapping itself to death. This was pre-32GB MacBook Pros, so I bit the bullet and couldn’t be happier with the setup. It’s dead sil…

I do similar work (arguably a bit more intensive) on my 2016 MBP with the lowest specs possible (8gb ram, 2ghz cpu) and it's surprisingly silent most if not all the time.

I have around 5-6 windows with 10-15 tabs each within them as well some ssh tunnels and some other applications open (I do heavy front/backend with docker builds through ssh as well as ML work through ssh)

Not sure what's going on, but my lowest-end Mac is running everything I need like butter.

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Post by antihero »

tomcam wrote: post #204
pier25 wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always argued that for the prices that Apple charges Apple Care should be included in all its products. The first Apple computers I bought lasted for years and I never thought Apple Care was necessary, but since the fiasco with the 2011 MBP and the butterfly keyboards I'm not buying another of its products without Apple Care. Yes, Apple ended up doing the right thing in both cases but it took years after the pro…

I'm wary about AppleCare BECAUSE of the MBP keyboard incident. They refused to replace mine or my wife's. I have purchased well into the 6 figures of Apple devices over the decades. p.s. Switched to Windows when I bought my laptop for that reason.

What is the MBP keyboard incident?

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Post by LoSboccacc »

pier25 wrote: post #111
Corrado wrote: post #103

I think they should include Apple Care for their professional equipment. This won't put any any more money in Apple's pocket but I could see it being another differentiator and a good bit of PR, especially to all of those price arguments. Plus, it's only $300 and I'm sure Apple could suffer that "loss" on a $6,000 - $30,000 purchase.

I've always argued that for the prices that Apple charges Apple Care should be included in all its products. The first Apple computers I bought lasted for years and I never thought Apple Care was necessary, but since the fiasco with the 2011 MBP and the butterfly keyboards I'm not buying another of its products without Apple Care. Yes, Apple ended up doing the right thing in both cases but it took years after the pro…

assicuration is often a form of self selction bias. people conscious about damaging their property are those that are more likely to take care of it. apple care for everyone can dramatically shift its profitability.

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Post by mola »

slig wrote: post #152
lostlogin wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It presumably is in some areas. In New Zealand we have The Consumer Guarantees Act. Things are expected to have a reasonable life span. What this means is not specified but is generally accepted to be relative to the price paid (eg if it’s expensive, it should last). It’s a fantastic piece of legislation. I’ve had a 2.5 year old iPhone covered for example.

I believe that the parent meant that Apple charges enough (in the US), so it should have the extended guarantee included there. In NZ, things cost extra due to that law, correct? The difference: is everybody is paying for that extra protection, there's no choice.

If you have this protection, it's like insurance. You, and everybody else, pay an insignificant amount of money and you get a much more expansive treatment incase of failure. Sure you have a choice, back the politicians that are against this.

I don't get why freedom loving people rather have a corporate take away their freedoms than a democratic self governed body. Both are power clusters, but in one you have a moral ground to criticise when it's acting against the populous interests (democratic government). While abuses of power from corporate cannot be argued against morally, you don't own them, they are playing by the rules, they manage to make a buck, all is above board morally while in actuality masses of people might be hurt by corporate abuses of power.

Freedom is extremely important but it is sometime conflicted with other values, a reasonable discussion of the conflict and tradeoffs is a much better way to improve life for people, than fanatically protecting the one single value you hold most dear.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

Still don't understand the justification for this machine, I waited years for a MacPro but when it became clear that Apple actually considered it a dead product and behind the scenes were building the iMac Pro to fill the niche I switched to windows and now run a dual 1080Ti workstation (Uses CUDA for 3D rendering path-tracing) for around half the price of a iMac Pro.

Apple bloggers said time and time again the reason they were not making a tower was that there isn't really a market for one anymore, yet when they finally made it they decided to build something that only really serves the highest of high end video editors.

Completely ignoring 3D, mid range video editors, developers who need high core counts + ECC, deep learning, etc.

Before they made it we kept being told "There isn't enough of you to justify them making it"

They finally make it and the narrative turns into "It's not for you it's for people who edit Marvel movies"

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Post by [deleted] »

e12e wrote: post #268

Surprised no one(?) commented on the case yet - looks like they came to their senses and went back to the "old" case design. I've been seriously considering a second-hand, early Mac pro - just for the case. Not sure if they fit regular/modern psus - but those cases were very nice. Good riddance to the trash can design... Now, if these wouldn't be priced like a car, and came with some proper AMD cpus ...

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Re: New Mac Pro Tech Specs

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

ScottFree wrote: post #6
kristianp wrote: post #2

Still no Nvidia cards?

Still no Nvidia drivers.

Anyone who wanted Nvidia already left Apple's ecosystem in the Mac Pro trashcan era, and honestly wont want to look back.

If your workflow and machine are built around CUDA thinking back to before you had that setup you wonder how you ever got anything done.

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Post by whywhywhywhy »

Hamuko wrote: post #201

The starting 256 GB SSD sticks out like a sore thumb on a machine as expensive as this. The barebones Mac Mini comes with 128 GB and 6-core Mini with 256 GB. And upgrading it is gonna cost an arm and a leg.

"If you can afford the Mac Pro then you can afford the extra storage" as the Apple bloggers keep saying....

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Post by nickjj »

Corrado wrote: post #103

I think they should include Apple Care for their professional equipment. This won't put any any more money in Apple's pocket but I could see it being another differentiator and a good bit of PR, especially to all of those price arguments. Plus, it's only $300 and I'm sure Apple could suffer that "loss" on a $6,000 - $30,000 purchase.

> I think they should include Apple Care for their professional equipment. This won't put any any more money in Apple's pocket but I could see it being another differentiator and a good bit of PR, especially to all of those price arguments.

Do Apple hardware failures happen often?

In ~20 years of assembling PCs with consumer grade parts I've only had 2 legit non-keyboard/mouse hardware failures (3 if you count lightning destroying a power supply before I knew about surge protectors). For context, I've had 0 hardware failures in the last 10 years. I keep my computers on 24/7 too.

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