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Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by ariwilson »

michaelt wrote: post #370
ariwilson wrote: post #367

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That quote was incorrect. See their later updates. I agree support was misinformed, this is a real issue with YouTube.

I don't see an update saying the quote is incorrect, or that the problem has been resolved - the only update I see on the article says their videos "have been blocked worldwide without explanation" Are you looking at a different article to me?

"Last night the Youtube Support team contacted Francesco Siddi by phone. As we understand it now it’s a mix of coincidences, bad UIs, wrong error messages, ignorant support desk staff and our non-standard decision to not monetize a popular Youtube channel."

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by ariwilson »

kop316 wrote: post #366
ariwilson wrote: post #359

Earlier quoted context omitted.

TFA has updates after this and this update turned out to be misinterpretation.

I am not seeing this update you are referring to, it looks like it stops after Update 2.

Not your article, the original article:

"Last night the Youtube Support team contacted Francesco Siddi by phone. As we understand it now it’s a mix of coincidences, bad UIs, wrong error messages, ignorant support desk staff and our non-standard decision to not monetize a popular Youtube channel."

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by Martus »

bad_user wrote: post #357
Martus wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You make it look like they are starving to death there when in fact it's about generating MORE revenue every year despite the costs because this is what Wallstreet expects you to do.

That they aren’t “starving” or the amount of revenue they generate is irrelevant. What wallstreet expects or not is also irrelevant. If users refuse to pay for subscriptions and keep blocking ads for reasons that have nothing to do with privacy or security, pretty soon as-blockers will become illegal. It happened before with DRM, it can always happen again. At which point people will cry out in support of privacy or…

No it's not irrevant what Wallstreet expects. Please don't be ignorant. This is not some church or club we're talking about.

> If users refuse to pay for subscriptions and keep blocking ads for reasons that have nothing to do with privacy or security, pretty soon as-blockers will become illegal.

We Ad-Blocking software users laughed about that already in the 90s. Think about it. Same goes for DRM. A giant waste of money.

The net grew from then on and it still is while computing power, web design, etc. got cheaper. So how do you explain it to yourself? Just think about it for a moment.

There is no other justification then the need to generate MORE revenue. This is why you get less for more.

The more google rapes here those who make the content for them, the essence of their existence, the more they threaten this part of their business because with every step away from centralized businesses like YouTube, they'll lose revenue or good. It won't come back. Nobody is coming back to Myspace or Facebook. In the end they just need to not be popular anymore and that doesn't take much or long those days.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by tjoff »

ariwilson wrote: post #338

The comments here are more interesting than the article itself. Looks like the real issue was a UX snafu on YouTube's part that support had trouble resolving for too long. Let's hope YouTube does better in the future. However, if you read the comments here, they paint a sinister portrait of YouTube that has nothing to do with Blender's issue. Some examples: - ads are required for big channels (false) - demonetization…

Well, (I believe) the article that you read is not the article that was posted. The HN post is about the PeerTube test (and previous posts), at a time where the facts about this case was not available to anyone.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by lucb1e »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #230
lucb1e wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You made a video about YouTube criticism and host it on YouTube? Either that's being optimistic about them, or the dominance is so large that it outweighs everything else...

...wouldn't that be a logical place to post your YouTube criticism? Do you think Martin Luther weakened his message by nailing his criticism of the church to the door of a church? Do you think picket lines are misguided for surrounding their targets when they could picket unrelated areas farther away?

Nailing your complaints about X to the door of X, does not support X. Uploading it to YouTube makes the network effect bigger because anyone who wants to hear what you want to say will have to go to the site. It works more like vouchers, where you get a discount (technically worse for the store because they get less money) but because you'll have to go to the store to redeem it, and you'll probably buy more, it's worth it.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by rainbowmverse »

sadris wrote: post #360
apichat wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and PeerTube https://joinpeertube.org/en/ is fundrising to be improved : https://www.kisskissbankbank.com/en/projects/peertube-a-free... 20 000 € goal: PeerTube v1, clean and simple With your help, we can get PeerTube to its first stable release, its v1, planned for October, 2018. You will finance the development of: ○ Interface localization, to support multiple languages; ○ Video subtitles, to facilitate video a…

What makes PeerTube superior to BitChute?

Is BitChute federated? I was able to follow's Blender's videos from a Mastodon account since PeerTube runs on the same network.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by lucb1e »

mark_edward wrote: post #249
Larrikin wrote: post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has become a pretty common complaint lately that people should only have their protests in places where the only people that will see them are the people that already agree with them.

Yeah it's almost like a lot of people really just want everyone to shutup and accept how things are.

Does this still have any relation to my post earlier in the tread, or is this some different topic you're talking about? Because it sounds as if you're saying that I'm arguing everyone should stop criticising YouTube.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by detaro »

sadris wrote: post #360
apichat wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes and PeerTube https://joinpeertube.org/en/ is fundrising to be improved : https://www.kisskissbankbank.com/en/projects/peertube-a-free... 20 000 € goal: PeerTube v1, clean and simple With your help, we can get PeerTube to its first stable release, its v1, planned for October, 2018. You will finance the development of: ○ Interface localization, to support multiple languages; ○ Video subtitles, to facilitate video a…

What makes PeerTube superior to BitChute?

It's open-source and you can host your own instance, with your own content and rules whilst federating with other instances.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by rajacombinator »

abnry wrote: post #3

I can't believe this has been going on for three days. YouTube seems like it is actively sabotaging its independent content creator's channels. But in this case it's not just some random kid living with their parent's. MIT and Blender are both respectable orgs.

Actually it’s much worse when they hit the random kid living with parents who might be relying on it and who won’t get through to support like orgs like MIT and Blender can.

Re: Blender is testing PeerTube after YouTube blocks their videos worldwide

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Post by rainbowmverse »

dosshell wrote: post #347

Wait, is it really solved now? I get the following error for many videos: > This video contains content from BlenderFoundation. It is not available in your country. For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kes2qmijy7w and all other videos in "Blender Fundamentals" playlist. I'm located in Sweden.

Same in the US.
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